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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    5 mil will get you a FCoB clear, so yes, you can 'win' the game this way just by paying r/l money.
    Where? please, I want an FcoB clear for that price. most I have seen are in the 200 mil plus ranges, and that is out of range for any of these people selling bracelets, unless they have a thousand dollars to give to SSE for it.

    And honestly, if someone wants to pay a thousand dollars for a single FcoB clear, im not going to stand in their way, they can most definitely have it.

    also see my post above, the post limit made me have to reuse a slot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    Where? please, I want an FcoB clear for that price. most I have seen are in the 200 mil plus ranges, and that is out of range for any of these people selling bracelets, unless they have a thousand dollars to give to SSE for it.

    And honestly, if someone wants to pay a thousand dollars for a single FcoB clear, im not going to stand in their way, they can most definitely have it.

    also see my post above, the post limit made me have to reuse a slot.

    The person you quoted is just probably plucking "scenarios" from thin air. I seriously LOL-ed at the FCOB clear with 5 mil. These people are so blinded by cash-shop hate to the point nonsense are spouted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FateAudax View Post
    The person you quoted is just probably plucking "scenarios" from thin air. I seriously LOL-ed at the FCOB clear with 5 mil. These people are so blinded by cash-shop hate to the point nonsense are spouted.
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure full FCOB sales are actually more like 8-10 mill or so, if people are overgeared enough to do them yet. So you'd need to spend around $40-$60, not $20, if we're going by the average server price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure full FCOB sales are actually more like 8-10 mill or so, if people are overgeared enough to do them yet. So you'd need to spend around $40-$60, not $20, if we're going by the average server price.
    That said, you are mostly nitpicking.

    He could already have 3 million from questing and what not. The bracelet sale would allow him to afford a run.

    You laugh at spending $60 for a FCoB run ... clearly you have no idea how deep the rabbit hole can go,

    http://www.wired.com/2012/11/meet-the-whales/all/
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    Last edited by Bishop81; 12-14-2014 at 09:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    That said, you are mostly nitpicking.
    I'm not exactly sure what you think I'm nitpicking at. I'm merely laughing at the notion that someone thinks Coil clear sales are an imagined phenomenon and not a norm on just about every raid-oriented server.

    Regardless of the price, gil buys you progression (and has for over a year since Titan HM sellers cropped up to cover their future housing), and now money buys gil. It won't buy you a world-first, but it can certainly place you in a bracket to be considered for a group going for it.
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    Last edited by Krr; 12-14-2014 at 09:28 AM.
    video games are bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    I'm not exactly sure what you think I'm nitpicking at. I'm merely laughing at the notion that someone thinks Coil clear sales are an imagined phenomenon and not a norm on just about every raid-oriented server.
    You are nitpicking the price (both in gil and RL money) - that is the context anyway based on the guy you are quoting.

    Just saying 1 bracelet sale can make a FCoB clear affordable and $60 isn't that big a deal for some people.

    The question is, do you want the said "some people" to be able to do this,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop81 View Post
    You are nitpicking the price (both in gil and RL money) - that is the context anyway based on the guy you are quoting.
    I don't think the context of the post I made or the post I was quoting has been made entirely clear since you seem to think I'm somehow defending exchanging real cash for gil by joking that you need 'even more' real cash for a FCOB purchase.

    (It's the opposite.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cid_Grim View Post
    People have been selling runs for over a year, long before the cash shop existed. They will continue to sell runs after people stop selling bracelets.
    The point isn't that you can buy runs now that bracelet selling is pandemic, the point is that bracelet selling literally lets you convert real cash into content clears, which is a form of directly paying real money for player power, or "pay to win" as it's commonly put.
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    Last edited by Krr; 12-14-2014 at 09:43 AM.
    video games are bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    Where? please, I want an FcoB clear for that price. most I have seen are in the 200 mil plus ranges, and that is out of range for any of these people selling bracelets, unless they have a thousand dollars to give to SSE for it.

    And honestly, if someone wants to pay a thousand dollars for a single FcoB clear, im not going to stand in their way, they can most definitely have it.

    also see my post above, the post limit made me have to reuse a slot.
    There are people who are quite happy to spend just that kind of money. People whose ego is so invested in the game that they are happy to pay extortionate amounts to be 'the best' on their server, whether that means market dominance or BiS gear.

    Allowing people the ability to obtain in game currency (albeit with an intermediary step) without having to do anything in game to achieve it is anathema to an MMO.

    If success has a price then it has no value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    There are people who are quite happy to spend just that kind of money. People whose ego is so invested in the game that they are happy to pay extortionate amounts to be 'the best' on their server, whether that means market dominance or BiS gear.

    Allowing people the ability to obtain in game currency (albeit with an intermediary step) without having to do anything in game to achieve it is anathema to an MMO.

    If success has a price then it has no value.
    All success in anything has a price, period.
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