I want an official response.

[SDaemon]

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Nothing in the eternal bond cash shop list takes away from what is offered in game, you don't need any of it to start, do and complete the quest or to look and role play to your hearts content with the costumes and such added for free. The Savage Coil title is tied to defeating the bosses in the Coils, allowing people to pay for the title makes no sense and it is far beyond unlikely SE would even entertain the notion.

If they offered new random titles in the cash shop I would have no problem though.

If they offered the usual costume, minion and flair items with Starlight while also offering more costumes and minions in the cash shop to go along I would not have a problem at all.

[zar]

The person said 5 Themepark MMOs. WoW is so not a themepark MMO at all.

Can't tell if sarcastic or serious.

[Kuolema]

The person said 5 Themepark MMOs. WoW is so not a themepark MMO at all. Person also said games that haven't gone F2P.

TERA, SWTOR, and Aion are all F2P now. Tera and SWTOR have an optional subscription for extra bonuses, but free is still available.

The problem is the older the MMO gets the more likely it will become free to play in some aspect to bring in a new crowd. So it's nearly impossible to name 5 these days that haven't gone F2P.

[Sholah]

Nothing in the eternal bond cash shop list takes away from what is offered in game

But it does. Those things would have been in the game for free if not for the cash shop.

[SDaemon]

But it does. Those things would have been in the game for free if not for the cash shop.

Actually more than likely they would not exist at all.

[LittleArrow]

Nothing in the eternal bond cash shop list takes away from what is offered in game, you don't need any of it to start, do and complete the quest or to look and role play to your hearts content with the costumes and such added for free. The Savage Coil title is tied to defeating the bosses in the Coils, allowing people to pay for the title makes no sense and it is far beyond unlikely SE would even entertain the notion.

If they offered new random titles in the cash shop I would have no problem though.

If they offered the usual costume, minion and flair items with Starlight while also offering more costumes and minions in the cash shop to go along I would not have a problem at all.

I think your response to that post is just your opinion though. That's sort of the point. We all draw our line in different places. The achievement of defeating a boss is just as important to some people as getting married in game. The problem is the constant bickering back and forth. Some people refuse to see other's points based on what's important to them and ridicule those trying to present their issue. Then when the offended party tries to come back to prove their point, arguing of semantics ensues.

Members of this community have tried to find a compromise as customers to present to SE, but SE has been pretty terrible with communication and super stubborn with compromising with players when it comes to this cash shop thing.

[Kuolema]

But it does. Those things would have been in the game for free if not for the cash shop.

Or maybe it wouldn't be in the game period. None of us players really know what will be in the game and what won't be in the game. So please don't make statements like that without some form of proof.

[Sholah]

Or maybe it wouldn't be in the game period. None of us players really know what will be in the game and what won't be in the game. So please don't make statements like that without some form of proof.

Do you think those ideas suddenly popped up and were developed between October and 2.45? There has been concept art for Eternal Bond for at least a year, and those things were developed with the sub money we all pay. Had the community not shown support for a cash shop,or if they had not just accepted it because 'it doesn't affect what I like!', then they would have been implemented without being in the cash shop.

Edit: Forgot to mention the biggest one: Sleipnir. Sleipnir as a mount has been in the game since release. You know how Odin appears as a player riding Sleipnir? That's exactly the same thing they use for the player mount. It was already in the game, and it was cut for the cash shop.

[SDaemon]

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That may be true, I'm not saying otherwise. However the title is tied to defeating the bosses in Coil, making you defeat the bosses and than pay a fee to get the title is a silly argument to make imo when the eternal bond situation isn't like that at all. You do the quest get married and get the in game items attached to the quest, same as always. A better comparison would be say you defeat the bosses for the title, but in the cash shop you can purchase a mount that can only be rode with a savage clear achieve. That is a more accurate comparison which honestly I wouldn't have an issue with that either.

[Kuponutz]

No one's holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy them. If you don't want to spend the money then don't. Cash shops are the way of modern MMOs and as long as they do not become P2W there should be no issue. You are asking a company that is trying to make money to not do what every other modern MMO does. There is a free wedding option. As for Urianger you seem to forget there were already 3 other pets in the shop prior. These are not things that are required to progress in content in the game. Don't like it, don't buy them, see how easy that is?