So what if people sell platinum and gold plans for gil?

[TouchandFeel]

I understand the idea behind why SE made the items tradeable, so you can provide your partner with the item they need for you two to do the Eternal Bond.

However, it then being able to be sold via trading for gil is RMT and is a nasty oversight on SE's part and should have something done about it IMO.
This goes for the new dyes as well.

I am okay with these new items being in the cash shop (although not everyone will agree with me), but items that are available solely through the cash shop for real money should never be allowed to be sold (even if in a roundabout way) for in game money.

I feel that at least for now they should limit the number of times an account can purchase the Eternal Bond items within a specified time, for example an account can only buy two total of either of the Eternal Bond items per month. It may not fully stop the selling of these items for gil, but it could at least limit it somewhat.

[cookiecutter]

As long as you're paying for someone else, it can always be sold for gil in a round about way.

[Shougun]

As long as you're paying for someone else, it can always be sold for gil in a round about way.

Paying for gil is illegal in all cases except for what appears to be SE's sanctioned gil system. It /can/ be as you said always worked around but those workarounds can be reported and be bannable offenses.

This.. is.. its different.

[MiniTofu]

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However, it then being able to be sold via trading for gil is RMT and is a nasty oversight on SE's part and should have something done about it IMO.
This goes for the new dyes as well.

I am okay with these new items being in the cash shop (although not everyone will agree with me), but items that are available solely through the cash shop for real money should never be allowed to be sold (even if in a roundabout way) for in game money.
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New dyes are not tradeable fyi.

[Shougun]

New dyes are not tradeable fyi.

Can trade the item the dye is applied to though right? (tbh I haven't checked, but that too would be the same thing)

[Arky]

Can trade the item the dye is applied to though right? (tbh I haven't checked, but that too would be the same thing)

I would imagine so, but that made buying dyes very sketchy, a lot of people aren't going to do it without the seller offering collateral for trading over the gear, then you have to think, what if they just want the money for the gear and don't buy the dye. Then you're stuck with gear you won't use, less gil, and a useless dye.

[Shougun]

I would imagine so, but that made buying dyes very sketchy, a lot of people aren't going to do it without the seller offering collateral for trading over the gear, then you have to think, what if they just want the money for the gear and don't buy the dye. Then you're stuck with gear you won't use, less gil, and a useless dye.

Yeah this one would be harder to work around than just flat out "here is the item, trade the gil". Still think for continuity of "no p2w" SE should make everything in the shop bound and all byproducts of the shop's work bound - and if it is arguable the by product is p2w then SE should feel ashamed to have it in there. Or at least if they continue to do something like that I'd have to go, there is no way I can play a p2w game - I'm not without money but its principle ('my' imo).

[Warlyx]

Can trade the item the dye is applied to though right? (tbh I haven't checked, but that too would be the same thing)

trading gear to dye is a huge risk.... , trade that 5M chest 110i to a random guy selling the new cool dye.......and look how the guy goes offline to never come back again....

[TouchandFeel]

New dyes are not tradeable fyi.

I am well aware of that, they work the same as the other metallic dyes that could be acquired in-game and just like those dyes people are selling the new ones in a roundabout way by putting up PF groups to sell the dyes by having a person trade you the item that they want dyed, you dying it then trading it back for the agreed upon amount of gil, hence why I called it a roundabout way of selling items.

[Arky]

I am well aware of that, they work the same as the other metallic dyes that could be acquired in-game and just like those dyes people are selling the new ones in a roundabout way by putting up PF groups to sell the dyes by having a person trade you the item that they want dyed, you dying it then trading it back for the agreed upon amount of gil, hence why I called it a roundabout way of selling items.

Check out my reply above your post.