The pull factor of Pay to Play

[Aegis]

Lets look at it this way.

$20 Eternal Bond + Sub $15 / 30 days = $1.16 per day
$40 Eternal Dond + Sub $15 /30 days = $1.83 per day

Like I said, quit buying that McDouble and Small Fries every day and you'll be golden.

But if they included it with my sub I could still buy a sub, right?

The forum is full of seer or fortune-teller.

If the game dislikes you, unsub, close the door and never come back.

I think the concern is that people will choose to do just that. They certainly did that with version 1.

[Ashgarth]

I think the concern is that people will choose to do just that. They certainly did that with version 1.

This.

I still remember people complaining about so much stuff in 1.0 and others just telling them to shut up and leave because everything was fine.
We left.
Remember what happened?

On the other hand, since some people seem to be just thrilled with every thing that's pushed into the cash shop I guess they'll have no problem if the game goes F2P someday.

[TeaTimeBear]

This.

I still remember people complaining...

Honestly I like this game, but I'd rather see you all take action than talk. It's all everyone here ever does is talk, they get riled up then it trickles down to a few posters and 0 action taken. What is the delay? If you hate the direction why keep feeding it? I know many of you want change but look where we are now. Look at how close we are to the expansion, I feel like their ideas are being laid out pretty clear. Enough with the threats, enough with the long discussions that get few direct responses. Either watch the game crash, or use your wallet as your voice. I'd rather watch something I love fail then watch it slowly become this unrecognized beast.

[Nalien]

Either watch the game crash, or use your wallet as your voice. I'd rather watch something I love fail then watch it slowly become this unrecognized beast.

I am really doubtful that SE will see reducing subscription numbers and turn around on the decision to have a cash shop. More likely they'll see it as a justification for the cash shop; "We're losing players, better milk the remaining ones for more through the cash shop, good thing we added that.".

I'd much rather see more community outrage, perhaps similar to the old Absolute Virtue debacle XI had back in the day. Sadly outside these forums "SE is charging $15 for a mount that was in the game in beta" isn't really getting any coverage. SE sees no repercussions from this, just the profits. So what if a bunch of us quit over it, they'll just earn that and more through the cash shop if they choose.

Canceled my sub today.

Tradable items in the cash shop is my personal line. Would not have thought they'd go there, but they did.

You should have quit come 2.2, where they let you buy two extra Retainers and added a system that let you send Retainers out to obtain various items. Even ignoring things like the minions (which you can double your chance for with $), you can get a fair amount of Allagan Pieces per day from Ventures, which is just straight up Gil, which you can double by buying two more Retainers. Eight Ventures a day isn't a lot considering you can get 6 a day from Dailies alone, or a handful from Company Seals or even Treasure Maps.

[Bixby]

Honestly I like this game, but I'd rather see you all take action than talk.

Canceled my sub today.

Tradable items in the cash shop is my personal line. Would not have thought they'd go there, but they did.

[MiniTofu]

Canceled my sub today.

Tradable items in the cash shop is my personal line. Would not have thought they'd go there, but they did.

Where are you seeing tradeable? Please prove it because none of them are tradeable. If you read reddit post about the same item in market board, there is a NPC sell them for Gil, those are tradeable.

[Kaeda_Valentyne]

Canceled my sub today.

Tradable items in the cash shop is my personal line. Would not have thought they'd go there, but they did.

I cancelled mine today as well. My sub runs out tomorrow.

[QUOTE=MiniTofu;2634782]Where are you seeing tradeable? Please prove it because none of them are tradeable. If you read reddit post about the same item in market board, there is a NPC sell them for Gil, those are tradeable.

FYI the "bracelet" which is what gives you the different weddings & items can be traded. So some one can buy the platinum wedding make a party finder and sell the platinum wedding in game for boatloads of gil.