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  1. #51
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    Sparktacus's Avatar
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    Sprinkle Puff
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Never save it for raising, ever. Just, no.
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  2. #52
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
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    Summoner Lv 50
    I have posted to many comments on my own thread. o.o
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    Last edited by Suggestion; 11-25-2014 at 05:36 PM. Reason: with out the edit i look... insane...

  3. #53
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    Sangiin's Avatar
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    Character
    Kinjirareta Shimo
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Wouldn't it just be best to judge the situation on whether to save swift cast or not? If you are running with a team you are familiar with you should be able to communicate well enough to know when you will need to save it and when you wont. If it's with people you don't know you could just feel it out and monitor how fast healers are doing their job, if skeptical just save it for a res.
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  4. #54
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    Lyrica_Ashtine's Avatar
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangiin View Post
    Wouldn't it just be best to judge the situation on whether to save swift cast or not?
    There's no way to "judge" when you should save Swift Cast or not. The need to use Swift Cast for resurrect doesn't occur till anyone actually messes up and dies. This will lead to two situations:
    1) You used Swift Cast earlier to maximize your DPS
    2) Swift Cast has been off CD for a long, long time

    Much like your buffing skills (Raging Strike), you try to keep it on CD to maximize your DPS.
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  5. #55
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    Suggestion's Avatar
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 50
    Learning very quick that my rez as summoner is never needed in crystal or syrcus tower o.O its to freaking easy. Easy mode like easy peasy.
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  6. #56
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
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    Summoner Lv 50
    Thanks to everyone who posted
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  7. #57
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    DPS wise, using it on Shadow Flare is less of a gain compared to having to move and using SC on Bio II or Miasma or SF, so in mobile fights it can be best to save SC for movement. That being said, sometimes you can be sure you won't need it within the next 60s and should use it on Shadow Flare, which is a large portion of the fights.

    Priority for SC: Opener > raise (if needed - as stated multiple times SMN is the last resort for raising in a coordinated group) > forced movement > Shadow Flare over raw cast if no forced movement in the next 60s
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  8. #58
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    DarkLordCthulhu's Avatar
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    Effy Stoneheart
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KillyBamp View Post
    This. I use swiftcast on shadowflare as SCH ffs!!
    Same. i always tell my static members "no one die in the next minute, i just used shadowflare" lol
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  9. #59
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    Luthvian's Avatar
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    Character
    Kiriko Ashley
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    [QUOTE=Suggestion;2595743
    What really does bother me a little, is ill be in titan or Ultima and a player is downed. But, the healers clearly don\\'t make any moves to rez that person. That to me is not fulfilling your classes role. Practicing good habits now can only help you when you reach higher dungeons. Duty roulette is not an excuse for laziness.

    There is a post on here about WTFWHM its pretty good [/QUOTE]

    To play devils advocate, sometimes the healer doesn't res immediately because they need to pay attention to the tank hp, or that they are waiting for a better time to res. I don't exactly trust df pugs to know how to accept raise at the right time in order not to die to the next aoe attack and costing me more mp to raise them again so I'd rather time my raise for them.
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  10. #60
    Player
    Suggestion's Avatar
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    Calina Servilius
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    Zalera
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    Summoner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Luthvian View Post
    To play devils advocate, sometimes the healer doesn't res immediately because they need to pay attention to the tank hp, or that they are waiting for a better time to res.
    K, your post goes without saying. And i am bothered you think we/I do not know the obvious.
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