Shadowflare + Swiftcast

[Suggestion]

Then you are too easily bothered by things people say online, try not to take everything so personally. You mentioned the wtfwhm thread which is why I felt compelled to respond. It's good that maybe you knew this but I have encountered it many times that people think that healers are lazy because we do not res like right away. They scream for a res, then for protect and if the tank dies, it's the healer's fault.

Don't worry its ok i forgive you ^^

[jars]

you're also making swift cast on shadow flare out to be some important dps increase. it's a 16% decrease in cast time on 1/2 shadow flares which is our lowest potency spell, minus the cast animation time of swiftcast. you probably get more out of using it on ruin 1 when you're on the move since you care so much about mp

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

you're also making swift cast on shadow flare out to be some important dps increase. it's a 16% decrease in cast time on 1/2 shadow flares which is our lowest potency spell, minus the cast animation time of swiftcast. you probably get more out of using it on ruin 1 when you're on the move since you care so much about mp

Well, since we're discrediting your arguments:

About using Swift cast on Ruin 1:
Ruin 1 has 80 potency at the cost of 79 MP. This is 1,01 potency/mp
Shadowflare has a total potency of 250 at the cost of 212 mp. This results in 1,18 potency/mp
It also takes 25 Ruins to match 8 shadowflares. You're more likely to swiftcast 8 shadowflares than swiftcasting 25 ruins as well
Add in the fact that it takes 62,50 seconds to cast 25 ruins while it takes 24 seconds to cast 8 shadowflares. Assuming you Swiftcast 8 of each, this results in 20s GCD for Shadowflare while Swiftcasting Ruins still remains at 62,50s combined GCD and casting time.

Checkmate.

[Suggestion]

I think its getting a little to hot in here o.o

[Buff_Archer]

Whether to swiftcasts vs. hardcast shadowflare in favor of a potential raise is all situational decision, there's no concise answer that can't be refuted. It would look more like a flowchart with all the variables to take into account.

One thing to consider I'm not sure I saw mentioned- the longer cast time of shadowflare carries with it a higher chance of the need to dodge and break that cast... completing 90% or more of the cast and then having to cancel in a situation where a faster casting spell could have finished is not something you want to have happen. So it's not just about shadowflare going of off a bit faster, it's also about being able to get it up with success even if having to dodge at the same time.

[Suggestion]

Whether to swiftcasts vs. hardcast shadowflare in favor of a potential raise is all situational decision, there's no concise answer that can't be refuted. It would look more like a flowchart with all the variables to take into account.

One thing to consider I'm not sure I saw mentioned- the longer cast time of shadowflare carries with it a higher chance of the need to dodge and break that cast... completing 90% or more of the cast and then having to cancel in a situation where a faster casting spell could have finished is not something you want to have happen. So it's not just about shadowflare going of off a bit faster, it's also about being able to get it up with success even if having to dodge at the same time.

I think that is a very reasonable statement.

[Hayden]

Simply put, for smn time is damage, the more time you save the more damage you do. Throwing quickcast up, then shadow flare lets you get to your rotation all that much faster.

It makes you look like you're doing, it's neater, and it gives you more time to get everything else up.

And the final nail in the coffin, there's no reason NOT to use it for Shadowflare. Unless your Egi died and you need to get it back fast, or the party is in deep shit and you need to raise a whm, there's no other real pressing use for swiftcast.

So meh, it's a moot point.

[Suggestion]

It makes you look like you're doing, it's neater, and it gives you more time to get everything else up.

And the final nail in the coffin, there's no reason NOT to use it for Shadowflare. Unless your Egi died and you need to get it back fast, or the party is in deep shit and you need to raise a whm, there's no other real pressing use for swiftcast.

So meh, it's a moot point.

I think looking like you know what your doing is a personal view point that is different from player to player to be honest o.o

but then again im paying attention to me to make sure i do my job, and not looking at others to see if they look neat and tidy

[RazeLandale]

Use your judgment based on what you're fighting and if you think someone might actually die.

[Brianmj]

Use your judgment based on what you're fighting and if you think someone might actually die.

So always keep swiftcast at the ready if there is a Dragoon in the party? Gotcha