Eternal Bond - Standard Plan and Gold Plan

[Ilitsa]

Kinda weird You access servers and play games in a F2P MMO and that is free of charge (naturally to make money they have a cash shop). When a P2P game 8-15 bucks a month depending on your plan/legacy uses a cash shop that's completely fine, knowing what F2P games do, it makes F2P games look better if you are comparing models. The more they add to the cash shop the more I will respect F2P despite me never playing them as at least their game is F2P and not charging a Fee to use their severs, heck even some F2P games have decent servers to play on. That is just me though.

PS: No SE, I don't want you to go F2P, I just hope you stop this Cash shop thing before it gets out of hand. Stay Strictly P2P /no cash shop like most of us like. The main reason why most are hear is because there isn't a cash shop.

Difference being that F2P tend to lock key game progression behind cash shop. Let's take Grand Chase, for example. You get 4 free character slots, and have to pay to unlock any subsequent character after that. you have to pay to unlock skill trees for the characters, pay to be able to upgrade your armor.


Don't like that example? How about this one:

Grand Fantasia. Inventory expansion, items to increase the success of your crafting/upgrading, all vanity options, pets.

There is a world of difference between optional cosmetic options and a F2P's MMO's cash shop locking QoL and inventory space behind their cash shops.

[Cynric]

Difference being that F2P tend to lock key game progression behind cash shop. Let's take Grand Chase, for example.

I don't wanna go off tangent this thread is on but just gotta comment on this. Grand Chase originally wasn't like that. It became like that because the developer killed off 90% of the global player base with bad patches and still wanted to milk the game for all it was worth.

[Ilitsa]

I don't wanna go off tangent this thread is on but just gotta comment on this. Grand Chase originally wasn't like that. It became like that because the developer killed off 90% of the global player base with bad patches and still wanted to milk the game for all it was worth.

Be that as it may, it's like that now.

[Cynric]

Be that as it may, it's like that now.

With all 100 players left.
A dead game with a bad developer that had no other choice isn't exactly the same as a successful game with a huge player base that actually listens to its players for the most part. Most games that have gone for cash grab schemes like that are dying. That's why I said it wasn't like that before. They screwed up so they tried to make as much money as they could before they have to trash it.

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Not even close to the same situation / reason for going full on into the cash shop.

[Zumi]

With all 100 players left.
A dead game with a bad developer that had no other choice isn't exactly the same as a successful game with a huge player base that actually listens to its players for the most part. Most games that have gone for cash grab schemes like that are dying. That's why I said it wasn't like that before. They screwed up so they tried to make as much money as they could before they have to trash it.

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Not even close to the same situation / reason for going full on into the cash shop.

Its really only a few vocal people on the English forums that make a huge fuss over microtransactions. For example out of 70 people or so in my FC nobody even cares about it. Most of the people that play the game don't care about it. Most of the JP players do not care about it.

[Cynric]

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I've seen plenty of people fussing but we all pretty much said the same thing in my fc. As long as there's no pay to win stuff then no real reason to care much.

The only thing I personally think weird about this situation is that the extra plans didn't really seem necessary, especially if it's just for mount/minion/slightly more detailed clothes. Me and my friend already decided that we were gonna go ahead and pay for it, so i'm not really in the camp of caring much about it being a money thing. I just find it a little odd to even make separate plans in the first place.

However like I said to the person I responded to in the first place. I was pretty much just responding to the comment about GC, I also didn't mean to go as off topic about it as I did so I apologize.


The only thing I would think is a little bad for this is how much they over hyped that double mount. People seem pretty upset at the chance of that costing money.

[Starlord]

There is a world of difference between optional cosmetic options and a F2P's MMO's cash shop locking QoL and inventory space behind their cash shops.

Putting a Big feature like Marriage behind a paywall isn't what I call Cosmetic. Please don't give me the "it's free" deal because they are most likely putting the biggest things that every couple in-game would probably want behind a paywall. When it should be in game. Minions? Fine Holiday items? sure Mounts? pushing it a little A Big feature like Marriage.. That's where I cross the line.

[Ilitsa]

Putting a Big feature like Marriage behind a paywall isn't what I call Cosmetic. Please don't give me the "it's free" deal because they are most likely putting the biggest things that every couple in-game would probably want behind a paywall. When it should be in game. Minions? Fine Holiday items? sure Mounts? pushing it a little A Big feature like Marriage.. That's where I cross the line.

The marriage isn't behind a paywall. the COSMETIC Mount and minion is.

[FateAudax]

Putting a Big feature like Marriage behind a paywall isn't what I call Cosmetic. Please don't give me the "it's free" deal because they are most likely putting the biggest things that every couple in-game would probably want behind a paywall. When it should be in game. Minions? Fine Holiday items? sure Mounts? pushing it a little A Big feature like Marriage.. That's where I cross the line.

Get your facts straight. Marriage / Eternal Bond isn't behind a paywall. The cosmetics is. Damn these haters are going blind from all the hate to a point of fact twisting.

[Starlord]

Get your facts straight. Marriage / Eternal Bond isn't behind a paywall. The cosmetics is. Damn these haters are going blind from all the hate to a point of fact twisting.

As far as you know of. We don't know if there will be any restrictions between Standard and Gold/Plat. Again this is a P2P game, we shouldn't be spending extra money on something we are already paying. Sorry accessing servers isn't really a valid, Accessing the servers to use what is in the game. Taking stuff out of the game and putting it behind a paywall cosmetic or no is just greed in my eyes.

F2P needs a cash shop to survive.
P2P game when we have a healthy fanbase playing it doesn't need a cash shop. Adding a cash shop when you are making a huge profit as it is, is greed.