Women and Armor!

[Ophie-Mio]

This is just "stop liking what I don't like".

It seems that so far only you and Reimu are the ones who actually think his quote is in any way perfectly fine. How my response to his and your post comes off as "I don't like it so WAH!" is completely beyond me now. Have fun sitting in front of Reimu in a bikini BECAUSE he deserves to look at your half naked body because it's what he likes. Be grateful that you should be looked at.

Anyway, what exactly is your issue? There are revealing sets in the game, for both genders, and there are non-revealing ones, also for both genders. Why don't you wear what you want to wear and let others wear what they want to wear? What's wrong with some sets being sexier or more revealing than others?

I WANT people to wear what they want to wear. That's the fucking point. If they want the sexier outfits, let them have it. BUT you can't design an outfit one way and then give me the same outfit and my tits are hanging out and have it be okay.
If this game made a sexy section of clothing, I wouldn't care! I just want the choice of it when attire is specifically changed for women.
And before people think I want the original changed or taken out, I don't! I want an added option for the male version!

[Riepah]

How fun sitting in front of Reimu in a bikini BECAUSE he deserves to look at your half naked body because it's what he likes. Be grateful that you should be looked at.

Wearing revealing clothes is a choice. If you choose to wear conservative clothing, that's your right. If you choose to wear revealing clothing, that's also your right - but then it's also everyone else's right to look at you and enjoy what they see (or not). Wearing revealing clothes but not wanting to be looked at seems like a rather contradictory thing to do.
In any case, people do "deserve" to look at you if they so desire, at least I'm not aware of any law that prohibits anybody from looking at things or people.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

It seems that so far only you and Reimu are the ones who actually think his quote is in any way perfectly fine. How my response to his your post comes off as "I don't like it so WAH!" is completely beyond me now. How fun sitting in front of Reimu in a bikini BECAUSE he deserves to look at your half naked body because it's what he likes. Be grateful that you should be looked at.

You sure like to turn things around for your convenience.

First of all I have no need for anyone to sit in front of me in a bikini, cause I have my character which is enough for me to look at. But aside this, I just said that there are only VERY FEW armors like that in the ENTIRE GAME, and you are not FORCED to wear them. I am saying that you could, maybe, just maybe, stop whining about a couple of armors you don't like and throw all the men who like those armor a bone instead of acting all nazi about it. I repeat, they are not harmful to you IN ANY WAY unless you yourself draw aggro towards you.
Yes, you should be glad that MEN like WOMEN, otherwise we would have gone extinct ages ago. In the same way, MEN should be glad that WOMEN like them (...and they usually are). I honestly don't see what's the problem, here.

There are plenty of skimpy male outfits in the game. No male is whining about those.

In any case, people do "deserve" to look at you if they so desire, at least I'm not aware of any law that prohibits anybody from looking at things or people.

Didn't you know? Girls are allowed to dress skimpy, but if you stare at them you are a pervert and a pig.

[Teryaani]

There are plenty of skimpy male outfits in the game. No male is whining about those.

I am, I'd like more that don't require desynth to get.

Didn't you know? Girls are allowed to dress skimpy, but if you stare at them you are a pervert and a pig.

Staring at them? Yeah, I'd avoid that. Kinda creepy.

She used the wrong word by the way. That wasn't misogynistic as that would mean hateful toward woman. Sexist possibly, your phrasing was pretty bad even if your point (guys play female characters and should like how the character looks) wasn't.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

She used the wrong word by the way. That wasn't misogynistic as that would mean hateful toward woman. Sexist possibly, your phrasing was pretty bad even if your point (guys play female characters and should like how the character looks) wasn't.

Yeah well, English is not my primary language so what I write might have different meaning in my mind - especially when dealing with this kind of delicate matters.
Tbh, I believe that if you dress yourself to clearly attract the attention of the opposite sex, you can't expect not to be stared at. I don't know, seems stupid to me. I believe that if a man goes around with his abs bulging out his extremely tight t-shirt he EXPECTS to attract attention - I don't think anyone would be "Oh my god you perv girl, stop staring at my muscles, you sow!"

I don't define myself sexist tho (I would have no problems defining myself as such if I believe I was, trust me). I just accept that males and females are inherently different - and males, in general, tend to be way more "visual" than females. This, of course, creates a market that, luckily enough, is not much supported in this game. This is also why feminists believe that males "objectify" females, when this is not the case AT ALL, generally speaking. The fact that males are quite vulnerable to the female body is not a news, and is in fact a weakness that I would like to remove since it can be easily exploited. But alas, that is hardly possible.

Point is, whining about the very few cases where this happens in this game seems to me definitely unneeded.

[Zedd702]

The fact that males are quite vulnerable to the female body is not a news, and is in fact a weakness that I would like to remove since it can be easily exploited.

Lol, I'm not vulnerable to the female body. I do appreciate it as I do the male body as well, but no where NEAR vulnerable... She'd be barking up the wrong tree...

[Teryaani]

Yeah well, English is not my primary language so what I write might have different meaning in my mind - especially when dealing with this kind of delicate matters.

Yeah and there isn't any tone which makes things suck more. I feel you on that.

Point is, whining about the very few cases where this happens in this game seems to me definitely unneeded.

I agree. It's making a lot of noise about a few sets. I echoed that earlier too.

Also (not directed at you Remilla):

Request they add an option to cover the stomach for those of you that don't like it, while leaving the option for those that do like the original to keep it.

I know the forums are a means of getting information to the devs, but the above (in game suggestions) is probably a more reliable channel.

[Zedd702]

I know the forums are a means of getting information to the devs, but the above (in game suggestions) is probably a more reliable channel.

My point is: people need to stop acting like a bunch of English professors, historians, sexologists (even if you are) and cease arguing over terminology and just request options....

[Remilia_Nightfall]

My point is: people need to stop acting like a bunch of English professors, historians, sexologists and cease arguing over terminology and just request options....

Why? Forums are made to discuss, and I enjoy arguing. It helps me develop arguments and counter-arguments, I think it's a very useful exercise.

[Teryaani]

My point is: people need to stop acting like a bunch of English professors, historians, sexologists and cease arguing over terminology and just request options....

I hope that first part never happens. These forums would be a boring place if we (me included) couldn't be pedantic. Plus it makes for a good place to get resistance to any idea you'd like to suggest. If the resistance is hollow and toothless, then it may be decent idea. If your fellow players dice your idea to shreds with valid arguments, you can rethink it.