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    Remilia_Nightfall's Avatar
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
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    I explicitly used "schoolgirl-styled skirts" as an example, not scottish kilts or wizard robes or cuban heels. I never said "all robes and skirt-like clothing is exclusively for females". I was speaking of pieces of clothing deliberately designed either for men or for women.

    Wait, let me do a visual example using Japanese school uniforms:






    Which one do you find less stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    Wait, you're telling me a feudal japanese noblewoman was happy to exploit war orphans and prostitutes? Say it ain't so.

    The Wikipedia article has not a single cited reference of them wearing revealing clothing.
    Tbh it is a rather well-known fact to any student of Japanese history (possessing a degree in that, I can testify to it). Courtesans and prostitutes were absolutely ideal to act as Kunoichi as they could get closer to their target quite easily by using their body as lure.
    It's nothing surprising, really. And yes, orphans were often raised as spies acting as courtesans / prostitutes. This is how "ninja" were born - hardly anyone became a "ninja" of its own volition. The ninja were outlaws, criminals, and were despised by both the common folks and the noble, Samurai caste.

    The modern media created the magical / martial idea of the "honorable ninja" which is now seen everywhere, but historically they were the lowest trash.
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    Dodoku Lilimiye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    I explicitly used "schoolgirl-styled skirts" as an example, not scottish kilts or wizard robes or cuban heels. I never said "all robes and skirt-like clothing is exclusively for females". I was speaking of pieces of clothing deliberately designed either for men or for women.

    Wait, let me do a visual example using Japanese school uniforms:






    Which one do you find less stupid?
    I'm totally honest here, the more I look to the second photo, the less stupid I find it, I don't know why.

    Then again the first one is clearly posing and being all cool while the guys are just getting dress and looking kind of akward.

    Mayhaps one of the reasons female clothes looks bad on men is not because they are skirts, but because they are not designed apropietly for the male body, coupled with the fact that we are taugh to consider a way of dressing as ridicule and funny when men are sporting such clothes ? I don't really know much about the matter.

    I'm my opinion I kind of agree in the fact that the differences between the differents gears are kind of puzzling and even a bit silly. They are not too big, but it can hurt if you are going for a more serious or prude character look. But at this point changing it is kind of impossible even if it would be simple to do because then you anger the other side who actually like those differences. And letting both options as ideal as it may be is probably not a possibility.

    I love the variety of sexy and regular gear for both genders that the game offer, is probably not only one of the best examples of the best examples in the MMO's market, but also of videogames in general I think SE did an amazing an exemplar job there. Really outstanding ^^

    If you want to blame someone about "sexy clothes" blame the playerbase, they asked for this (literally, the were tons of topics back in the 1.0 days asking for more sexy and pretty gear for the ladies).
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