Eternal Bond - Standard Plan and Gold Plan

[Ilitsa]

I'm fine with the free/premium options. I consider my subscription as the right to access their server and play the game, nothing more. If I want extra goodies beside that, they have every right under the sun to charge for them. If I want it, I'll buy it, if it doesn't interest me, I'll pass. (go ahead and look at my lodestone, see how I have zero cash shop things.)

[Starlord]

I'm fine with the free/premium options. I consider my subscription as the right to access their server and play the game, nothing more. If I want extra goodies beside that, they have every right under the sun to charge for them. If I want it, I'll buy it, if it doesn't interest me, I'll pass. (go ahead and look at my lodestone, see how I have zero cash shop things.)

Kinda weird You access servers and play games in a F2P MMO and that is free of charge (naturally to make money they have a cash shop). When a P2P game 8-15 bucks a month depending on your plan/legacy uses a cash shop that's completely fine, knowing what F2P games do, it makes F2P games look better if you are comparing models. The more they add to the cash shop the more I will respect F2P despite me never playing them as at least their game is F2P and not charging a Fee to use their severs, heck even some F2P games have decent servers to play on. That is just me though.

PS: No SE, I don't want you to go F2P, I just hope you stop this Cash shop thing before it gets out of hand. Stay Strictly P2P /no cash shop like most of us like. The main reason why most are hear is because there isn't a cash shop.

[ExponentialDecay]

Kinda weird You access servers and play games in a F2P MMO and that is free of charge (naturally to make money they have a cash shop). When a P2P game 8-15 bucks a month depending on your plan/legacy uses a cash shop that's completely fine, knowing what F2P games do, it makes F2P games look better if you are comparing models. The more they add to the cash shop the more I will respect F2P despite me never playing them as at least their game is F2P and not charging a Fee to use their severs, heck even some F2P games have decent servers to play on. That is just me though.

maybe there is a reason you are playing this game and not those games.

You just wait.

*sonic voice* i'm waiting...

[Starlord]

maybe there is a reason you are playing this game and not those games.



*sonic voice* i'm waiting...

To be perfectly honest, I am off and on atm. The Cash shop still has my mouth in a sour state, I like SE as a company, but I feel this is a greedy move.

[silentwindfr]

To be perfectly honest, I am off and on atm. The Cash shop still has my mouth in a sour state, I like SE as a company, but I feel this is a greedy move.

i feel the same, but i wait to see the 2.5... if what we expect happend, loving this game or not i will be out. it sad because i did advice a lot of my friend to play it. but i feel soo bad when i see this sort of move from SE.
physical goodie have no impact on the game, instead to do digital goodie, why not allows us to have the rest of the goodie they sell in japan.

another point, the two seat chocobo can be an advantage while playing in duo... but well... it's not pay 2 win... *sighs*

[Ilitsa]

Kinda weird You access servers and play games in a F2P MMO and that is free of charge (naturally to make money they have a cash shop). When a P2P game 8-15 bucks a month depending on your plan/legacy uses a cash shop that's completely fine, knowing what F2P games do, it makes F2P games look better if you are comparing models. The more they add to the cash shop the more I will respect F2P despite me never playing them as at least their game is F2P and not charging a Fee to use their severs, heck even some F2P games have decent servers to play on. That is just me though.

PS: No SE, I don't want you to go F2P, I just hope you stop this Cash shop thing before it gets out of hand. Stay Strictly P2P /no cash shop like most of us like. The main reason why most are hear is because there isn't a cash shop.

Difference being that F2P tend to lock key game progression behind cash shop. Let's take Grand Chase, for example. You get 4 free character slots, and have to pay to unlock any subsequent character after that. you have to pay to unlock skill trees for the characters, pay to be able to upgrade your armor.


Don't like that example? How about this one:

Grand Fantasia. Inventory expansion, items to increase the success of your crafting/upgrading, all vanity options, pets.

There is a world of difference between optional cosmetic options and a F2P's MMO's cash shop locking QoL and inventory space behind their cash shops.

[Cynric]

Difference being that F2P tend to lock key game progression behind cash shop. Let's take Grand Chase, for example.

I don't wanna go off tangent this thread is on but just gotta comment on this. Grand Chase originally wasn't like that. It became like that because the developer killed off 90% of the global player base with bad patches and still wanted to milk the game for all it was worth.

[Ilitsa]

I don't wanna go off tangent this thread is on but just gotta comment on this. Grand Chase originally wasn't like that. It became like that because the developer killed off 90% of the global player base with bad patches and still wanted to milk the game for all it was worth.

Be that as it may, it's like that now.

[Cynric]

Be that as it may, it's like that now.

With all 100 players left.
A dead game with a bad developer that had no other choice isn't exactly the same as a successful game with a huge player base that actually listens to its players for the most part. Most games that have gone for cash grab schemes like that are dying. That's why I said it wasn't like that before. They screwed up so they tried to make as much money as they could before they have to trash it.

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Not even close to the same situation / reason for going full on into the cash shop.

[Zumi]

With all 100 players left.
A dead game with a bad developer that had no other choice isn't exactly the same as a successful game with a huge player base that actually listens to its players for the most part. Most games that have gone for cash grab schemes like that are dying. That's why I said it wasn't like that before. They screwed up so they tried to make as much money as they could before they have to trash it.

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Not even close to the same situation / reason for going full on into the cash shop.

Its really only a few vocal people on the English forums that make a huge fuss over microtransactions. For example out of 70 people or so in my FC nobody even cares about it. Most of the people that play the game don't care about it. Most of the JP players do not care about it.