Patch 2.45 December 9th

[StouterTaru]

exactly, thats why its not QoL.

QoL would be a pocket summoning bell for retainers.

It affects fights the same way that casting stoneskin on each individual person before the pull does, so you could already do it.

And fights are one of two ways:
1 - There isn't enough AoE damage for a pre-buff to matter
2 - There's so much AoE damage that it gains you enough time to put out a little damage early in the fight

Either way, not ground breaking

[Hyouretsuzan]

AoE Stoneskin was requested so many times and for a while now. We saw it coming, they confirmed it at fanfest. There is really no reason as to why people should ask why CNJ/WHM gets it. Yes, of course it affects battle since that's what SS is meant for. But not broken at all, just shaves off seconds. Not sure if there is anyway to exploit it since they made it so everyone in a party is forced in combat when bosses are pulled. Plus you'll instantly will get on the aggro charts the minute you cast SS. So I welcome this nice improvement. I'm sure WHM are happy for this. Not sure if SCH will benefit from it since I have no clue if it's cross-classable, which will be sadness since I play SCH rather than WHM. Ah well.

[Cabalabob]

Even if SCH can cross class it, it sucks that they have to give up 2 cross class spots if they want stoneskin and stoneskin 2, oh well, bye surecast.

[Jacost]

It's QoL because it has no bearing on the fight itself. You can't use Stoneskin 2 in a fight, only Stoneskin 1. Stoneskin 2 just saves some time pre-pull, and allows the healer to put it on everyone even if the tank rushes ahead.

[saber_alter]

as said above.


w/e. i'm more interested in the DRG buffs, the next phase in the zodiac quest, and eternal bond.


i hope they do away with the cash option for the eternal bond, but this isn't the place for that argument.

[Roomba]

It's Quality of Life because all good WHM's ALREADY DO THIS BEFORE ANY FIGHT THAT MATTERS. You already HAVE "Stoneskin 2" if you make a macro that targets all 8 party slots and casts an individual Stoneskin on each. All this changes is the extra 20 seconds spent to cast it on everyone individually. I could say I'm surprised that people are actually being this entitled but I'm not.

[DoctorPepper]

So basically, DRG is going to become the easiest job to play in the entire DPS lineup aside from BRD and they get to be the second highest DPS in the game as well. Way to go on the balance guys.. I don't even know what to say about that.

[Reves]

So basically, DRG is going to become the easiest job to play in the entire DPS lineup aside from BRD and they get to be the second highest DPS in the game as well. Way to go on the balance guys.. I don't even know what to say about that.

Because getting positional requirement while the boss is turning is easy as opposed to one positional

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

Do we know what they are doing to positional requirements from drg specifically? Are they putting it like NIN, where you pretty much have no positional requirments? Thanks in advance.

[RyuDragnier]

Do we know what they are doing to positional requirements from drg specifically? Are they putting it like NIN, where you pretty much have no positional requirments? Thanks in advance.

It sounds like they're doing like with MNK. You don't HAVE to hit the requirement to reach the next part of the combo, it'll proceed naturally along, but you lose out on a LOT of DPS.