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  1. #101
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    Seoki's Avatar
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    Swift Slaughter
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    So basically, DRG is going to become the easiest job to play in the entire DPS lineup aside from BRD and they get to be the second highest DPS in the game as well. Way to go on the balance guys.. I don't even know what to say about that.
    Dragoon, Monk, Ninja are all easy.

    Playing them WELL is a completely different story.

    Playing them well is just as difficult as Ninja, Monk, Summoner, Black Mage etc.
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  2. #102
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Was the mention of afros for 2.45?
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  3. #103
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    RIP succor, maybe.
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  4. #104
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    RIP succor, maybe.
    No, stoneskin II will be out of combat only.
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  5. #105
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    No, stoneskin II will be out of combat only.
    Just like raise from low level conjurer? Ah good then.
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  6. #106
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    BobbinT's Avatar
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Masamune
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I find this quite welcomed, though this is not a new thing since conjurer/white mage did have this back in 1.0 era, although handled differently through the skill called Sacred Prism which lets you AOE any selective spells including Regen too.

    Kinda reminds me back in original Aurum Vale dungeon where the air there used to be filled with poisonous fumes that will saps health of anyone entering those fumed areas. This is where Sacred Prism + Regen works where 2 WHM needs to work in tandem to manage duration of buffs always continuous until all party member are out of fumed zones.

    While I do wish Sacred Prism making a comeback, SS2 should do I guess.
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  7. #107
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    Mischief_Minion's Avatar
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    Mi'lies Boundthread
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Roomba View Post
    It's Quality of Life because all good WHM's ALREADY DO THIS BEFORE ANY FIGHT THAT MATTERS. You already HAVE "Stoneskin 2" if you make a macro that targets all 8 party slots and casts an individual Stoneskin on each. All this changes is the extra 20 seconds spent to cast it on everyone individually. I could say I'm surprised that people are actually being this entitled but I'm not.

    Not all of us have master the Macro making skill yet though. So its a nice add for those of us who stare at user Macros and go "wtf!?!?! How do I do this stuff!?" or for younger players (because I have no delusions that pre-teens and younger play) who probably don't think of making macros. Honestly I only learned tonight you could do such things with Macros! lol.
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    Last edited by Mischief_Minion; 12-03-2014 at 03:00 PM.

  8. #108
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    Eggnook24's Avatar
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    Egg Soup
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 50
    Happy to hear DRG is finally getting buffed. Right timing too, before the Dragon oriented expansion. But jumping to conclusions about Dragoon suddenly being OP to Ninja is ignorant. The nerf could be as little as -10 to the attacks, and +5 for the DRG. I still think MNK will be DPS leader, too bad for QQ people possibly sharing equally the second spot. Might as well complain SMN does more damage than most melee.
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  9. #109
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    Buff Archer
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    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Well this will help healers unfortunate enough to pull Nexus parties in DF who pull before they can even cast protect, let alone stoneskin the tanks. Though wouldn't surprise me to see in trial roulette the main tank pulls after the beginning of protect and before the out-of-combat SS II can be cast.

    Side note this should be available to SCH's, AND without taking up a whole cross class slot. SCH already has a weaker SS and that isn't changing, so why not enable this for what's the same QoL issue for both WHM/SCH. If an instance has two SCH's as healer, it doesn't matter that WHM's AOE SS is better if they're not there to use it in the first place.
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    Last edited by Buff_Archer; 12-03-2014 at 04:08 PM.

  10. #110
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    Lilith Lufaise
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    Well this will help healers unfortunate enough to pull Nexus parties in DF who pull before they can even cast protect, let alone stoneskin the tanks. Though wouldn't surprise me to see in trial roulette the main tank pulls after the beginning of protect and before the out-of-combat SS II can be cast.

    Side note this should be available to SCH's, AND without taking up a whole cross class slot. SCH already has a weaker SS and that isn't changing, so why not enable this for what's the same QoL issue for both WHM/SCH. If an instance has two SCH's as healer, it doesn't matter that WHM's AOE SS is better if they're not there to use it in the first place.
    Yeah, this change should really apply to the base Stoneskin spell for this reason. It'd really solve the issue for all jobs instead of just one.
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