XIV: P2P or F2P? XI never has Cash Shop, why XIV has?

[Felis]

The main focus of the game are 4 bosses every 7 months ? So much for a main focus...

Only if you limit yourself to a single content

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Only if you limit yourself to a single content

A main focus is usually single or it's not really a main.

Coil isn't the only PvE option in this game. So bad you missed all the dungeons, hunts and trials created in this last year

You mean the places where gear doesn't matter ? The only place where P2W matters would be coil, others content wouldn't even be worth paying for considering how easy they are. The main focus of the game is the story, too bad you can't see that

[Felessan]

The counts have been done quite a few times arround the forums. SE has more than enough money to cover actually everything of the game. The only way microtransactions money is going is shareholders. And that isn`t bad perse. Is bad cause for this we got a terrible cash shop for this and the game is becoming a pay2enjoy experience within a pay2play to game. Which is frankly, a disgusting financial strategy. But again, gamers keep reciving as they deserve because they are pretty much, the worse consumers ever in terms of consumer rights and how they just glady go with everything the industry throws at them.

You don't understand simple thing - shareholders will get theirs whether FF14 have cash shop or not, it's just a way a companies works. And it will mean that you'll not get gold plan items for free as shareholders for sure don't want to give up their share to allow team create more content for you for free.

The general misconception is that people think if cash shop would not exist - those items would be in game for free. Nope, in most cases it means that these items wouldn't be created at all as there is no budget for them. As all development budget already spent on usual content and rest of generated money robbed by management/shareholders for their needs.
And yes, FF11 had only simple, very simple marriage plan and no extra like several dress choices or mount. The very same plan that you can get in FF14 for free.

[Kuwagami]

The main focus of the game is the story, too bad you can't see that

Strawman me more. I was merely arguing your bad point.

also yeah, uncapped tomes in CS would be P2W even though "only coil matters". Just an example as there could be others.

Also, that sentence is a nice way to counter-argue your own "CS is P2W for minion collectors" as per your own words, minions are not the main focus, therefore it's no P2W.

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Strawman me more. I was merely arguing your bad point.

also yeah, uncapped tomes in CS would be P2W even though "only coil matters". Just an example as there could be others.

And yes that just go for what I said, it would be P2W in Coil ( well if you are good enough ), in all the other content you wouldn't need more than ilvl 100 to succeed easily. They just don't release P2W because the players are not ok with it, but give them time, first it was old seasonal events, exclusive cosmetic pets, then it will be vanity armors, then old armors that can't be obtained because reasons ( reason being so that you can pay ), then relic weapons stages from the 2.0 relics so that you don't have to do it again to have the particular stage you like or do it all again, why complain ? It's obsolete content ? And little by little you will have your pay to win, and everyone will be ok with it. Once we thought that DLC's overpriced weren't going to last, that it was going to disappear fast, look where we are now people are asking for companies to give them DLC they can buy...

Pointless argument is pointless

Thx for proving to yourself how pointless you arguments are.

Oh, btw WoW has a lvl boost, but that's totally not considered P2W right ? It's coming.

[Shioban]

Thx for proving to yourself how pointless you arguments are.

Oh, btw WoW has a lvl boost, but that's totally not considered P2W right ? It's coming.

That IS considered Pay-To-Win...

You're paying real world money in order to progress further.

Minions do NOT aid gameplay or provide any gameplay advatage, neither does Sleipnir.