1.18: Wipe your tears and open your eyes!

[NoctisUmbra]

I think enmity is broken when i lose threat to someone (a healer go figure), they start standing there so I can get it back, and it somehow takes 4 provokes, 4 disorients, 1 taunt, 2 accomplices, a heavy stab, heavy slash, 2 weaponskills, warmonger and 2 war drums and healing that healer myself as he got punched in the face to finally get it back.... Half way through doing all that i finally became yellow on the threat meter again. I can only think that someone accompliced me too, but if i cant get it back after all that it couldn't have been accomplice. fortunately that has only happened once. Tho i'd say it was a bug that hasn't been repeated in that intensity.

Enmity is very damage based too now. Throw in some weaponskills that generate extra enmity, like Barrage, Phalanx, Jarring Strike, etc.

In general, it is known that not all mobs have the same enmity patterns so there's a learning curve,

[Reika]

Enmity is very damage based too now. Throw in some weaponskills that generate extra enmity, like Barrage, Phalanx, Jarring Strike, etc.

In general, it is known that not all mobs have the same enmity patterns so there's a learning curve,

Read that again please... It was with the ogre btw. no hate wipe skills. I had a few mins of hate built up already, and he took me down to green in threat. Plus we had 3 healers, he was near full on MP.

[NoctisUmbra]

Read that again please... It was with the ogre btw. no hate wipe skills. I had a few mins of hate built up already, and he took me down to green in threat. Plus we had 3 healers, he was near full on MP.

Yea, idk what to tell you then. We've done the ogre fight over a dozen times and hate management was never an issue after the first attempt for us. We simply allow the tank to take initial hate, including curing himself with a tier 2/3 a couple times. The tank uses accomplice regularly on our mages.

I even tanked it once myself on PGL after our first couple runs and had no trouble holding hate. The difficulty for us was always survival when he started spamming Inferno Drop at lower HP.

Also idk if it's just your wording, but if you are tanking nobody should be using Accomplice on you. You should be using Accomplice on the mages.

[Reika]

Just the wording. I was saying it might have happened because someone decided to use accomplice on me, but after using a few myself after it should have been hard getting it back, especially on some one just standing there waiting til i get it back. Like I said, that only happened once.