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    Krr's Avatar
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    Murah Jhida
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Good WARs are actually a lot more stable in the HP department than most people think, because properly timed and cycled Inner Beast/Vengeance/Thrill of Battle pops will significantly flatten the amount of damage most 'tank killer' attacks will deal.

    Both of the tanks actually have their own pros and cons to being the MT and OT - PLD actually has higher singletarget OT DPS with Sword Oath and Fracture brought in, TMK, it's far easier for them to stunbot when not spending their GCDs to keep an aggro lead, and they aren't any worse-off than WAR in single-target add phases, WAR has more DPS in Defiance than a PLD does in Shield Oath and more 'holy crap I need aggro NOW' tools, etc, etc.

    I'm curious not as to what DRK will use to 'mitigate damage' but what utility they will bring to the party. A tank class is a lot more than its dodge, parry, block, and HP values.

    Especially because Dodge, Parry, and Block all suck.
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    Nexxus's Avatar
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    Yoko Ceres
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    I'm curious not as to what DRK will use to 'mitigate damage' but what utility they will bring to the party. A tank class is a lot more than its dodge, parry, block, and HP values.
    I'd say, spells. Drain effect spells. Absorb stats/strenght/etc...
    It could lead to a tank that lower enemies strenght while getting stronger defense for himself, so it benefit the entire party. but it could also be something else, we have to wait and see...
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    Inzoum's Avatar
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    Inzoum Zimia
    World
    Masamune
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    Especially because Dodge, Parry, and Block all suck.
    Block doesn't suck. Try tanking as PLD without a shield. It's part of the overall damage mitigation process, just more RNG based. Cut it out entirely and you'll see the difference.
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by Kassiekane View Post
    The question is if this job will be MT-centric like paladins or OT-centric like warrior.
    bah my post is messed due to messages coming after. My answer is after the side note


    Quote Originally Posted by Inzoum View Post
    Block doesn't suck. Try tanking as PLD without a shield. It's part of the overall damage mitigation process, just more RNG based. Cut it out entirely and you'll see the difference.
    side note to complete this :

    While evasion is totally worthless (mostly only trash is affected, rates are horrible etc...), parry has its use as is. Don't stack it, but don't neglect it, it might save your life (if only it could apply on magical damage though... T_T)
    On the other hand, the block rate is like godsent. Use a buckler, you become a block-bot with a high blocking rate (which becomes so useful for huge pulls are very high damaging physical attacks as you have a high chance of blocking them)..

    Anyone saying parry and block are worthless doesn't understand the mitigation potential of these 2 stats.

    Not even mentioning that a PLD without a shield loses a few skills ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Kassiekane View Post
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    mind having a real interview or the video extract of this ? No offense, but the "it is said that" isn't convincing me.

    EDIT : cross-sourcing seems to go in your way. Seems really strange and not in line with the spirit of DRK but why not ? We'll see what it gives and decide if it's worth our time or not
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 12-01-2014 at 10:50 PM.

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    Deathscythe343's Avatar
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    Zaknafein Do'urden
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    It is hard to say one way or the other with the very little information we have at the moment.
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