Eternal Bond - Standard Plan and Gold Plan

[Titor]

Mainly because not everyone is able / want to spend hours of their time crafting or grinding dungeons for cash.

I said 2 mil, and on Balmung you can earn 2 mil from spirtibinding for a few hours.
If you cannot put aside a few hours in game with your S/O to earn gil for your wedding, I am not sure if you actually want to get wed O-o;

[Eidolon]

[...]in my eyes, these people only want it for the mount, vanity, and perhaps the utility. What you should want it for is the union of you and your beloved betrothed.

Why should anyone want this system for exactly what you want it for?

This is a digital experience. A digital life. Some people will take that seriously, some people will take that jokingly. However, that doesn't mean that either side is wrong. If people want to get married to get mount, minions, and armor? That is full-well within their right. They are players, and deserve the same respect for their playstyle as you do for yours.

To me; the marriage thing is nothing special. It is between you and someone you are comfortable enough (or hell, in Rift's case: Whoever you can grab! 'cause achievement) to allow yourself to be married to in-game. That doesn't mean you need to act like this is some RL committment, and acutally, for most RP'ers, that would be pushing over an unspoken line of OoC/IC mixing.

[Mogi]

Why should anyone want this system for exactly what you want it for?

This is a digital experience. A digital life. Some people will take that seriously, some people will take that jokingly. However, that doesn't mean that either side is wrong. If people want to get married to get mount, minions, and armor? That is full-well within their right. They are players, and deserve the same respect for their playstyle as you do for yours.

To me; the marriage thing is nothing special. It is between you and someone you are comfortable enough (or hell, in Rift's case: Whoever you can grab! 'cause achievement) to allow yourself to be married to in-game. That doesn't mean you need to act like this is some RL committment, and acutally, for most RP'ers, that would be pushing over an unspoken line of OoC/IC mixing.

This all the way

[Uielyave]

I said 2 mil, and on Balmung you can earn 2 mil from spirtibinding for a few hours.
If you cannot put aside a few hours in game with your S/O to earn gil for your wedding, I am not sure if you actually want to get wed O-o;

So because i'd rather spend my time roleplaying or actually having fun instead of sitting around spirit bonding or crafting to get a mass amount of gil with a friend means that i'm supposedly not wanting / deserving of something? Interesting.
So because I didn't have the time or real means or knowledge to play the market board or farm for mats means I wasn't wanting a house as much as everyone else too I suppose, huh? Something tells me that you need to rethink a few things. Mainly, how what other people do with their game time doesn't make them want something any more or less than others.

[cookiecutter]

Just for some perspective. There are 107 minions in the game. Only two are cash shop exclusive. There are 30 mounts in the game. There is one currently in the cash shop and one that may be added to the cash shop. There is a ridiculous amount of gear in this game and only two pieces may be cash shop exclusive. Yep SE is definitely locking all their glamour, mounts, and minions behind the cash shop.

[silentwindfr]

And ultimately regardless of what SE does it will be because a majority of players, or at least enough players support it. Maybe if this game wasn't so devoted to appealing to the lowest common denominator the cries of bloody murder over this and the cash shop in general would mean anything, ultimately we are all easily replaced because SE is casting a broad net. The amount of people who are supportive, or at least indifferent about these decisions far outweigh those who are against it I assure you.

exept it will not be the majority of the playerbase....even in the free to play economic model on 3-5% really invest a lot of cash into it. the point it's viable for them since they can get a tons of cash from this 3-5% of people

a small read that is quite interesting: http://business.financialpost.com/20..._lsa=bc21-6e7f


the worst here it's we have the subs model with the micro transaction... it's... a nonsense, since the cash earn from the subs is far more than enough, SE have said it to them shareholder in them own financial report (you can find it on the site) all of this is more a marketing operation for grabs more cash, because people on IOs buy a lot via micro transaction..... then why not the mmorpg playerbase.

about the fact that it's was not done yet, i'm sorry, but i don't trust anymore SE, too much lie was said in the last months for trust them... the personal housing and hunting are a fair example of how yoshida and it team did lie to us... the eternal bonding is too a nice lie... even if in reality they haven't lie, they have simply for more of 8 month decide to make us pay more for content they have develloped while getting the subs.

actually player of the mmorpg is not really different than a shareholder... we are investing money in them company for get a benefit in game instead to get benefit in money. sadly, more and more dev in the mmorpg loose of sight this, them player are not cow, they are investor that put money into them product every month. when you lie to them or take them for idiot, they leave and the game fail... meaning net loose.

i don't see why they need the cash shop... it's stupid, because like said, the game bring them tons of cash. we can argue that i fight against something that haven't happend, yep that the case. however, if we don't say it yet... like i have said it will be too late when they will do it. because it's coming, the triple triad on ios link to the game is probably bound to have micro transaction into it. meaning people will get advantage...

Just for some perspective. There are 107 minions in the game. Only two are cash shop exclusive. There are 30 mounts in the game. There is one currently in the cash shop and one that may be added to the cash shop. There is a ridiculous amount of gear this game and only two pieces may be cash shop exclusive. Yep SE is definitely locking all their glamour, mounts, and minions behind the cash shop.

what you fail to see, it's not now... but what will happend on the long run... you can say, for now it's ok. it's like the people that cut tree of a forest without replant it... for now we have tons of tree... until later no more tree are left. it's not because now, it don't affect you or are... not important that later, if we don't regulate this sort of add, it will not become really bad.

[Titor]

So because i'd rather spend my time roleplaying or actually having fun instead of sitting around spirit bonding or crafting to get a mass amount of gil with a friend means that i'm supposedly not wanting / deserving of something? Interesting.
So because I didn't have the time or real means or knowledge to play the market board or farm for mats means I wasn't wanting a house as much as everyone else too I suppose, huh? Something tells me that you need to rethink a few things. Mainly, how what other people do with their game time doesn't make them want something any more or less than others.

This exact thing, but substitute game time with RL money.
That... was my point.
RL money to me is like game time to other people.
Which is why we should have both options for these items and services.

[cookiecutter]

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You're dealing with what ifs again. No one knows how much or how little they'll put into the cash shop yet so right now its just pure speculation. We can speculate here until our faces our blue but, it won't do anything until SE does more stuff down the line. There is no point in speculating about that now since there is no way to prove it true for a long time.

[Taliph]

You're dealing with what ifs again. No one knows how much or how little they'll put into the cash shop yet so right now its just pure speculation. We can speculate here until our faces our blue but, it won't do anything until SE does more stuff down the line. There is no point in speculating about that now since there is no way to prove it true for a long time.

When you introduce a game system, and then lock the best of it behind a paywall, that seems to me like pay to win. No need for speculation.

[Numenor1379]

When you introduce a game system, and then lock the best of it behind a paywall, that seems to me like pay to win. No need for speculation.

Except nothing is locked behind any pay wall, other than content which is identical in type to other stuff that is ALREADY in the cash shop. The main event, the Eternal Bond, is FREE... only vanity extras cost anything.