Exactly how much more do you expect us to pay?

[Jynx]

Everything costs Square Enix something one way or another.

The rub of it is, traditionally that's why people pay a subscription fee.

Apparantly some people seem to think the subscription fee is just a key that unlocks the door and everything ontop of that should cost extra.

[Naelle]

The rub of it is, traditionally that's why people pay a subscription fee.

Apparantly some people seem to think the subscription fee is just a key that unlocks the door and everything ontop of that should cost extra.

Everything in this case being one mount (1), a couple of mini pets that do nothing, and some old event items. Woe is he who cannot have these game breaking items.

[Alukah]

Everything in this case being one mount (1), a couple of mini pets that do nothing, and some old event items. Woe is he who cannot have these game breaking items.

It's really tiring to repeat the same to people who never learned how to read.

The definition "game breaking" will depend on what aspect of the game you enjoy. I know this is extremely hard to believe for some, but people actually enjoy different parts of the game.

Yes, there are people who care about those silly mounts, minions, seasonal stuff, wedding, triple triad, gold saucer mini games, [insert anything that isn't gear progression].

if you want free content go back to your F2P games where you get everything tossed at you for free(minus the cash shop mounts/vanity armor/etc...) if you want to support a companys game then stfu and stay here and stop whining.

Another person who doesn't pay much attention.

Honey, we are paying for content.

[Felis]

Honey, we are paying for content.

And we get content.
Another question is, do we also pay for extra vanity stuff, that is not really needed for the content?

[Alukah]

And we get content.
Another question is, do we also pay for extra vanity stuff, that is not really needed for the content?

That "extra vanity stuff" is content.

Come on, the first past of the post you quoted already explained this.

[Felis]

That "extra vanity stuff" is content.

Come on, the first past of the post you quoted already explained this.

Yes, and it would be still ok for me if this extra vanity stuff would just cost +3m gil (but not more than 10m gil). But SE decided to put it into the cash shop instead. It would have been a good gil sink.

[Devils_Lawyer]

Thread: Exactly how much more do you expect us to pay?

What is this "more" that your paying for that isnt a optional minion/mount?

[Naelle]

It's really tiring to repeat the same to people who never learned how to read.

The definition "game breaking" will depend on what aspect of the game you enjoy. I know this is extremely hard to believe for some, but people actually enjoy different parts of the game.

Yes, there are people who care about those silly mounts, minions, seasonal stuff, wedding, triple triad, gold saucer mini games, [insert anything that isn't gear progression].



Another person who doesn't pay much attention.

Honey, we are paying for content.

Of all the things you listed after being intentionally coarse, the one mount and hand full of minions are the only thing that's actually exclusive to the cash shop. The halloween gear was available in game to everyone for no additional cost and the rest is speculation and assumption. If there are people willing to quit because they can't or won't afford a $5 mini, I'm sorry. Hopefully they find a game that suits their taste.

[ExKage]

The rub of it is, traditionally that's why people pay a subscription fee.

Apparantly some people seem to think the subscription fee is just a key that unlocks the door and everything ontop of that should cost extra.

My company pays about $13k for 11 months of a service contract on a SEM. We get unlimited calls for them to come out. It does not mean that $13k covers replacement items or repaired items. I still need to pay for hose replacements (expected to need to be replaced), air valves, etc. I see no reason why a subscription fee -has- to include everything even when warranties and service contracts do not.

[Tupsi]

The rub of it is, traditionally that's why people pay a subscription fee.

Apparantly some people seem to think the subscription fee is just a key that unlocks the door and everything ontop of that should cost extra.

Because the terms literally state that the sub fee is "the key that unlocks the door" an everything else is up to SE's discretion. You can't play XIV unless you click: "I agree/I Accept." You don't even own your character, which is why you can't do much if SE decides to uphold the "we can get rid of your character/account whenever we want if deemed fit" because you agreed to it. They likely won't (very few companies do) but largely you pay a sub fee to access the game just like you pay a monthly fee to access the internet and everything else after you gain access is up to x company(ies.)