Best MMO

[Gaelu]

But Fat Chocobo was from the Collector's Edition, which is gated behind RL cash just like the cash shop. >.>

i don't think you get it.
if i sell you ABCD and you receive ABCD, you are happy, right?
if i sell you ABCD and you receive AD, you would be mad and want your money back, right?

they say: if you buy collectors edition, you get this, this and that.
they say: if you pay your monthly sub you will get this, this and that in the future.....*wait until it's 2 weeks before the patch*.... if you pay some more.

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We could have had a cash shop like WoW where you can literally buy your way to level cap.

No you can't.

[ChriZirhC]

oh no not this discussion again.. -_-

[Yshnal]

But Fat Chocobo was from the Collector's Edition, which is gated behind RL cash just like the cash shop. >.>

The fat chocobo and the wind-up moogle were introduced way after the game's release (as of 2.0 version). It wasn't included or announced in the original CEs, yet SE gave them to all existing CE accounts. That made a lot of people (customers) happy and thankful, and more willing to keep supporting such an amazing company and dev team.

However, if it was today, I'm sure that they would had made us buy them from the Mog Station (see event items). That change is not cool.

[Ashkendor]

However, if it was today, I'm sure that they would had made us buy them from the Mog Station (see event items). That change is not cool.

There's absolutely no way to either prove or disprove this. Nobody can be "sure" of it either way. *shrugs* In any case, it still wasn't "given away". You have to have purchased the Collector's Edition to receive these mounts. People that purchased the CE after the Fat Chocobo release received both the Coeurl and the Fat Chocobo.

I personally don't see the big deal about the whole thing, honestly. They haven't even announced the cost or anything yet and people are being terribly alarmist about it, throwing around prices in the $50-70 range. I've even seen shouts ingame complaining that it'll be even more than that. I mean, the refer a friend two-rider chocobo was basically gated behind RL money as well. The only difference is that you didn't have to spend it yourself; you had to get someone else to buy the game and pay for a subscription in order to get all the items.

[MomomiMomi]

I mean, the refer a friend two-rider chocobo was basically gated behind RL money as well. The only difference is that you didn't have to spend it yourself; you had to get someone else to buy the game and pay for a subscription in order to get all the items.

Not really. That was a bonus. Your friend would have had to buy the game and pay the sub anyway if they wanted to play. The only problem with it was that it didn't count people who had already gotten friends to play the game (which I had already done, so I was out of luck).

So, no, that was quite different.

[SinisterIsBack]

No you can't.

Yes.. you can. lvl90 60 bucks. Or are you going to sit and try to banter over the last 10 levels?

[Kerikeron]

No matter how upset people currently are with the recent developments, this game is still by far the best MMO I've played. They get my vote this year, and I hope they'll get my vote next year as well.

[Ashkendor]

Not really. That was a bonus. Your friend would have had to buy the game and pay the sub anyway if they wanted to play. The only problem with it was that it didn't count people who had already gotten friends to play the game (which I had already done, so I was out of luck).

So, no, that was quite different.

Honestly, I know people that got friends/family to play the game just so they could get the mount so YMMV.

There's more than a few that actually bought the game and the subscription for them just to get it.

And yeah, I'd already gotten all my friends that might want to play to do so lol.

[Roris]

Having played a lot of MMOs, and more than half the games on that list, I can say all modern MMOs are bad and ARR is simply below average in a lot of parts and slightly above average in some aspects. It does a couple of things better than most MMOs but other games do a much better job, especially on the content, latency and responsiveness side. Honestly I wouldn't vote for any game on that list, though WoW would get a minor honorary vote simply for having the best latency and responsiveness on the themepark MMO market.