DRG has been broken for far too long. Fix it SE

[Krr]

An actual stun and increasing bard's damage by 10% permanently.

6~7%. Damage resistance reduction does not affect damage over time effects. Also 'permanent additional party DPS' is actually calculable in a way comparable to other DPS, unlike the benefits of an additional Eye For An Eye, Virus, and Apoc. If you actually run the numbers the additional party DPS provided by a Dragoon to Bards doesn't actually make up the difference over taking a MNK or NIN doing ~15% more DPS until you somehow exceed 3 bards.

Do you even theorycraft?

Also, you can frequently use (every 30-60s ea, depending on CD): Swiftcast, Manawall, Manaward, and Aetherial Manipulation to either mitigate the need of movement as a Black Mage, or remove the DPS penalty from moving. No melee DPS can use a special skill to somehow remain in melee with a boss when he makes a big donut that forces you to be out of melee for 5-10s.

Scratch that, if the donut is physical then NIN can with Perfect Dodge. Chalk another one up against DRG, I suppose.

But, this thread isn't about Black Mage.

[hallena]

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BLM dps is lower when any sort of movement is involved, but didn't SE buff BLM for this issue?

No, SE buffed black mage because the fix to umbral and astral tick in 2.1 ended up gimping their dps to the point nobody wanted to bring them to anything. I did not mean to turn the topic to blm vs dragoon. I just simply didn't see the logic of dps/utility equality only applying to one class.

I'd like to see Apoc be either AoE

If apo was aoe i wouldn't even be in this thread right now talking about utility. apo being aoe would be amazing utility
I only wanted to say if the utility argument was an actual thing, then monks should have their dps nerfed or many class should get theirs buffed. Dragoon should be buffed because they are the weakest melee dps, not because they bring less utility. I didn't bring black mage into the discussion because i'm begging for a buff, i just choosed Blm because i'm more familiar with the class

[Reynhart]

Give DRG acces to Berserk as a cross-class skill.

Since they have less raid utility than MNK or NIN, they'd at least make better damage burst on their own.

[melflomil]

Wonderful idea. At the end of the day which is best. 30% damage increase. Or 50% increased attack power.

Also, I was thinking that jump should always crit if performed at the perfect time of a full thrust animation. Like right when we land. We can use the momentum to jump and cause a crit.

[LordMaitreya]

Berserk is on too long of a cd, no thanks.

[melflomil]

Compared to other cool downs that flats out increase your damage the wait isn't tling at all.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

DRG + Berserk = Rated R for Rape.

I like it.

[KaedrianLiang]

*Cough* +10% damage to BRD *Cough*

*cough* and other drgs *cough* but why would you want more than 1 drg in a party (outside of full raids) *cough*

[Viridiana]

*cough* and other drgs *cough* but why would you want more than 1 drg in a party (outside of full raids) *cough*

The other DRG is going to be doing his own Disembowel, because skipping the ID->DE->CT combo would absolutely devastate a DRG's dps. So, no, there's no benefit for the other DRGs in the party.

[jars]

blms aren't melee and have an inherent advantage over dragoons