About the Carbuncles ...

[Bishop81]

I started the summoner because of the carbuncle and was very disappointed when I got the egis. I would love to have carbuncle back

Same. Same.

Started playing assuming I could be ACN all the way - SE's site did say,

Classes are suited to those who desire versatility, as they allow the use of actions that belong to other disciplines. In contrast, jobs grant access to exclusive actions and are ideal for situations that demand well-defined roles. Which fighting style you adopt is entirely up to you.

Misleading advertising. :/

[MrCookTM]

Same. Same.

Started playing assuming I could be ACN all the way - SE's site did say,

Classes are suited to those who desire versatility, as they allow the use of actions that belong to other disciplines. In contrast, jobs grant access to exclusive actions and are ideal for situations that demand well-defined roles. Which fighting style you adopt is entirely up to you.

Misleading advertising. :/

This is the acual important part of the sentence. Of course any sort of lvl50 content will require well-defigned roles, if not it would be pretty poorly designed content and also job crystals/class choice in general would be mostly irrelevant.

Depending on your mmo background this is something you may or may not have known at the time you read that, but either way, it's a fault on your part and no "misleading advertising" by any means...

[jlewiss]

uh... despite what you seem to think adding the ability to summon carbuncle and the egi's technically classify as adding more skills. That is something they said they would not do until the expansion. They have no secret plan for carbuncles, they were a class skill and now you use the job stone summoner and have those skills overwritten. It isn't some mystery they have some hidden power to unlock, they are outdated content. On top of that summoning a carbuncle does not fit in with the lore of summoners, it fits fine with arcanists which once you equip the job stone you are no longer one.

[Bishop81]

This is the acual important part of the sentence.
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it's a fault on your part and no "misleading advertising" by any means...

Sorry man, you don't get to choose what is and isn't important. If it's printed there, it's "important".

It said, "is entirely up to you", which I coming into the game fresh took to mean "all are viable".

There is also this,

https://www.facebook.com/FinalFantas...type=3&theater

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uh... despite what you seem to think adding the ability to summon carbuncle and the egi's technically classify as adding more skills.
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it fits fine with arcanists which once you equip the job stone you are no longer one.

No it doesn't. Gameplay-wise nothing is added.

The upgraded Carbuncles will perform exactly like the Egis.

Let's use some common sense when interpreting developer comments. Aye.

[MrCookTM]

Sorry man, you don't get to choose what is and isn't important. If it's printed there, it's "important".

It said, "is entirely up to you", which I coming into the game fresh took to mean "all are viable".

There is also this,

https://www.facebook.com/FinalFantas...type=3&theater

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Lol. xD I didn't decide anything, I just gave a helpful pointer at what is in fact the important part of the sentence, which is even proven by your complaint about the class itself not being viable, yet you're still argueing... ^^

Whatever. Like I said, the advertisment clearly tells you there's content where the job exclusive skills will be in demand, wich you

coming into the game fresh took to mean "all are viable".

My point proven, fault on your side.

I am not even going to argue about the artwork you randomly posted...

[jlewiss]

Sorry man, you don't get to choose what is and isn't important. If it's printed there, it's "important".

It said, "is entirely up to you", which I coming into the game fresh took to mean "all are viable".

There is also this,

https://www.facebook.com/FinalFantas...type=3&theater

>.>



No it doesn't. Gameplay-wise nothing is added.

The upgraded Carbuncles will perform exactly like the Egis.

Let's use some common sense when interpreting developer comments. Aye.

Regardless of what they do they are giving more skills to a class. You now have instead of summon 1, 2 and 3 you now have summon 1,2,3,2.5,3.5 which is 2 new skills. Also unless you show me some kind of proof you are a programmer i would stop throwing out claims that it's as simple as a copy and paste, adding the enkindle alone requires at 2 new skill animations because they sure as hell can't have cant have them using aerial blast and earthern fury. And again you ignored my bit about lore-wise it makes no sense for summoners to be summoning carbuncles seeing as how they aren't primals. If not having that little furball is such an issue for you then unequip your job stone and run around with them all you want

[Bishop81]

My point proven, fault on your side.

I am not even going to argue about the artwork you randomly posted...

So SE advertises to fresh players who promptly took their message at face value is suddenly the fresh players' fault?! No offense, but that is the big pile of bull I have ever read. (Your "^^" and "" don't change that fact.)

"is entirely up to you" is what they wrote. THIS IS FACT.



What does the artwork show? It's shows a SMN (you can tell by the SMN-only gear) ... with a Carbuncle. Clearly SE marketing department felt the use of the Carbuncle was better than the "what the heck is that" Egis for PR, even though it doesn't work that way in-game.



Let's not kid ourselves, that PR image was for potential players as much as existing players. They are trying to hook potential players with the Carbuncles - and they already have, I being one of them - when it doesn't work like that in-game at all. If you try to use a Carbuncle @ Lv 50, you will get odd looks and be treated like a pariah.



PS: Urgh, I so hate arguing with "fans" who think their lord and savior can do no wrong.

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[Bishop81]

Regardless of what they do they are giving more skills to a class. You now have instead of summon 1, 2 and 3 you now have summon 1,2,3,2.5,3.5 which is 2 new skills. Also unless you show me some kind of proof you are a programmer i would stop throwing out claims that it's as simple as a copy and paste, adding the enkindle alone requires at 2 new skill animations because they sure as hell can't have cant have them using aerial blast and earthern fury. And again you ignored my bit about lore-wise it makes no sense for summoners to be summoning carbuncles seeing as how they aren't primals. If not having that little furball is such an issue for you then unequip your job stone and run around with them all you want

Whatever man, clearly you aren't willing to use common sense. I think we are done here.

[Defteros]

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1. Clone the 2 existing Carbuncle summoning spells, increase the potency on the Carbuncles they summon.
2. Redirect Summon I and Summon II for SMN to point to those spells.
3. Create Summon IV and Summon V, and point those to the spells that summon Titan-Egi and Garuda-Egi.

Done.

All the above are trivial to implement.

I have no idea where you get the idea that we need config windows ...

please look forward to 3.0 egis with Summon1378493493 as a spell name.

[Bishop81]

please look forward to 3.0 egis with Summon1378493493 as a spell name.

/golfclap

Excellent hyperbole. I couldn't have done it better myself.