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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
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    The problem is that it's suddenly a required gate to crafting, when there's no precedence of it beforehand (and in fact it was for optional recipes that were mostly for glamour). Then there's the fact that the demimateria in question is incredibly RNG, and most desyns are not feasible to obtain it (and some cannot obtain it at all). Top that off with requiring ixali oaknots to make the best offhands and crafting sets....after a GM response said they didn't want beast tribe rewarding BiS items.

    Also, Dalamud Popoto. I get those in the new 2.4 dungeons instead of the vintage or hero's jewelery. Although these don't even yield the mastercraft demimateria...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
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    There's been a required gate on crafting since crafting was a thing, though. It's not sudden, you probably just suddenly realized its existence. In 2.0, you had to have a minimum amount of craftsmanship to craft 1-star items like the crafter's AF gear. That's just how crafting is. Content -> Gate -> More Content -> Another Gate -> Even More Content. That's how MMOs work. So there is absolutely a precedent for this. I'm sorry it took you this long to realize that crafting isn't as casual a thing as it is in other MMOs. It requires a lot of hard work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
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    There has always been a stat requirement gate for every crafting update (nor was my post directed to this particular one anyway); 4* has a high stat requirement that needs the new off hands. However, those offhands are time-gated by beast tribe-only materials that take 8 days (assuming you're max rank) to procure (and again, this kinda goes against back when they said they didn't want beast tribe rewarding BiS). Then you have the recipes that require mastercraft demimateria, and just the process of crafting those offhands and artisan gear into HQ in the first place (and HQ is required for 4* unless you plan on penta melding the NQ and have a supra). That isn't hard work to get the materials, its just tedium and a lot of RNG.

    Before, there was only the stat requirements and the tomestone materials, which I don't really mind because you can for the most part. You could curve the former with melds, food, and buffs, and farm the latter. Now we have materials that are gated by time with beast tribes and materials that are completely dependent on RNG to procure.
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 11-28-2014 at 01:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    There's been a required gate on crafting since crafting was a thing, though. It's not sudden, you probably just suddenly realized its existence. In 2.0, you had to have a minimum amount of craftsmanship to craft 1-star items like the crafter's AF gear. That's just how crafting is. Content -> Gate -> More Content -> Another Gate -> Even More Content. That's how MMOs work. So there is absolutely a precedent for this. I'm sorry it took you this long to realize that crafting isn't as casual a thing as it is in other MMOs. It requires a lot of hard work.
    RiceisNice is super active on the DoH Forum. Pretty sure (s)he is a 4* Crafter and possibly has all of their tools based on how posts read.

    But wait, just to be clear Rice, you're making up this recipe, right? I don't see anything in the Eorzean Database for wedding invitations. Sealant and Water to make wedding invites would be insane. o_0';
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/2237443/]
    Quote Originally Posted by Noni View Post
    I wish more tanks were like you also.
    http://xivreborn.com/gen/Misenklauph_Drakkfhur_Ultros_Classes.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishini_Dracoto View Post
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    I wouldn't be surprised if they did make that into a requirement =3=.

    Eithercase, I'm just keeping my expectations really low for this. They said something alongside of using hte lodestone to propose and go through the process, but there's probably an enormous fee attached to it. Eithercase, I wouldn't be devastated to the whole thing being a sham or wonked with my incredibly low expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Also, Dalamud Popoto. I get those in the new 2.4 dungeons instead of the vintage or hero's jewelery. Although these don't even yield the mastercraft demimateria...
    Dalamud Popoto: The New Filtered Water
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