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  1. #81
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    So..Anyone else disappointed that it was atleast implied that we weren't getting any news on 1.19 because of all the unnecessary whining? I mean we can all agree some things needed adjustment, but, I am also pretty sure that it would have still been done without all the melodramatic BS. I am disappointed for the first time. Not by the developers, but by the community. Is this really the new generation of MMO gamers? People who whine because they can't one shot and win everything in under an hour? Sad, sad, sad.

    ..Sorry. /rant off.

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    I am very pleased with 1.18 update. I have to admit, some things which I was reticent with have proven to be quite beneficial for team work. And putting treasures that can't be acquired through simply killing the last boss is a clever idea, hehe (the hidden key metaphor)!
    (1)
    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyan View Post
    So..Anyone else disappointed that it was atleast implied that we weren't getting any news on 1.19 because of all the unnecessary whining? I mean we can all agree some things needed adjustment, but, I am also pretty sure that it would have still been done without all the melodramatic BS. I am disappointed for the first time. Not by the developers, but by the community. Is this really the new generation of MMO gamers? People who whine because they can't one shot and win everything in under an hour? Sad, sad, sad.

    ..Sorry. /rant off.
    yes, thats exactly what the new generation is about
    you shoulda seen the champions community at pre launch, they LOVED the game, you basicaly had god mode, everything was overpowered, the devs really dropped the ball on it, and they knew it
    so they fixed it
    and everyone whined god mode was gone, and thats what caused the game to get horrible reviews(all the reviews do mention the "day 1 patch" which basicaly took god mode away")

    people want things to be easy, no penalties, all the good stuff
    unlimited content, 1 shottong monsters and 100% gear drops

    youd be surrpised

  4. #84
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    As far as I'm concerned, this letter is extra content. Usually we get letters roughly every two weeks/and a half, now we got one only after a week.

    If he manages to post XVI within the next week and a half we've lost nothing. If he doesn't, then this was quite useless.

    He shouldn't be so sensitive. People will criticize him either way so he should take note and better himself; nothing more. In other words, "have the balls".
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 07-28-2011 at 01:51 AM.

  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    I thought the exact same thing when I finished reading it. I think this was just a smoke screen for two possible reasons:

    1. The negative feedback to some of the things they did in 1.18 has made them make changes to things that would be introduced in 1.19 as they realized players will not like them, and now he dare not say them as they will just bring even more complaints.

    2. He just wanted to buy time because he didn't felt like going into detail about 1.19 this week.

    Edit: The one thing I can take from the letter is that he admitted they made mistakes and went too overboard with some changes so all those fanatics barking at anyone who didn't agree 1.18 was the best thing ever and the exact vision of the producers can finally shut up. Players that had some issues with the patch were right.
    If your issues were r20-30 guildleve rewards, and whatever "further balancing" entails then maybe you got some validation. What of this is news though? Because they said prior to 1.18's release that 1.19 would largely balance abilities and XP methods (which will also be balanced in 1.2).

    I didn't see anything in there about how:
    • ARC/ARC/ARC/ARC/CON/CON/GLA/GLA is the only possible, or intended setup to kill the ogre.
    • Or about how XP is totally broken now and impossible to level.
    • That Enmity system is BROKEN!!!!!!
    • Or about how a certain class was completely useless and would need to receive an emergency balance fix just so someone, anyone would actually play it!

    I saw him saying he didn't want to make direct responses to all the complaints but that balancing would be examined in the coming patches. I think it is pretty safe to say that leve-linking/solo guildleves probably won't be returning as the primary form of leveling, that the enmity system and MP changes (while they may be adjusted) are here to stay, that Darkhold will stay the same, and that they haven't rethought adding auto-attack to the game.

    I'd hold off before proclaiming that everyone who complained about the patch was "right".
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  6. #86
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    One complaint about 1.18... why the hell you put food in treasure chests... how old is the food... is it really edible??

    Why is it missing subligar in every chest like I asked...
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    on a related note, the 1 biggest problem i have with this patch

    People zerging the 50 dungeon, im sick of it
    no one wants to go in and kill anything just run to the boss lol


    if theres anything they should change, its the despawning of mobs when you reach the checkpoints

  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, this letter is extra content. Usually we get letters roughly every two weeks/and a half, now we got one only after a week.

    If he manages to post XVI within the next week and a half we've lost nothing. If he doesn't, then this was quite useless.
    Good point. I guess that is the best way to look at it. I was just looking forward to more on 1.19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    If your issues were r20-30 guildleve rewards, and whatever "further balancing" entails then maybe you got some validation. What of this is news though? Because they said prior to 1.18's release that 1.19 would largely balance abilities and XP methods (which will also be balanced in 1.2).

    I didn't see anything in there about how:
    • ARC/ARC/ARC/ARC/CON/CON/GLA/GLA is the only possible, or intended setup to kill the ogre.
    • Or about how XP is totally broken now and impossible to level.
    • That Enmity system is BROKEN!!!!!!
    • Or about how a certain class was completely useless and would need to receive an emergency balance fix just so someone, anyone would actually play it!


    I saw him saying he didn't want to make direct responses to all the complaints but that balancing would be examined in the coming patches. I think it is pretty safe to say that leve-linking/solo guildleves probably won't be returning as the primary form of leveling, that the enmity system and MP changes (while they may be adjusted) are here to stay, that Darkhold will stay the same, and that they haven't rethought adding auto-attack to the game.

    I'd hold off before proclaiming that everyone who complained about the patch was "right".
    We all 'saw' different things in that letter. Some saw 'Our enmity calculations, and absolutely everything else, were perfect, and will never change!', others say 'Changes weren't perfect, and I will decline to state all of those imperfections at this time, as there are too many to list in one letter'.

    IMO opinion not even the dungeons were perfect. I'd rather have a dungeon where you couldn't sleep and run passed everything to the damn boss... In a real 'Raid' the trash hits harder than crap outside of it, with more HP.
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    Last edited by Reika; 07-28-2011 at 02:05 AM.

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    I want 1.19
    But after that letter i don't see it coming before late September...
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