Myth Message being used to excluded players

[Barboron]

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It shouldn't really matter though, if you do it through report harassment, it should be a valid report and the same action should be taken. If they feel it's not the right channel for reporting, then they should change it or forward it on to the correct channel. It's not the players' fault for using the channels clearly labelled and given to us.

[HeroSamson]

please report the player to the GM team via the Support Desk.

This does not work in game, they tell you to go to forums and report the matter.

Then the rules here about name shaming prevents people from reporting such actions because if you bring up the name you get banned.

Which you say go report it on support desk kinda means everyone is stuck in a revolving door while the bad ones get away with it.

[Zedd702]

I find it very funny how this thread really derailed since the OP. The point was clearly stated at the beginning of the thread "100 Myth bonus being abused to kick first timers on dungeon/trials/raids runs"

Then of course you get the elitists in the thread who CAN. NOT. READ. Assuming that the OP is talking about farming runs and PF. No one ever mentioned in OP ANYTHING about PF...

Reading comprehension at its friggin finest

-SMH-

[Mishini_Dracoto]

And I will post again that they can and do in fact get involved.

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It's all about *how* you report it.

Open support -> Frequently Asked Questions -> Prohibited Activities in Final Fantasy XIV - > File Report

*Every* time I file a report this way, a GM personally contacts me in game (even if its like 4-6 hours later)

I *have* reported people for abusing the 'kick' feature this way, GM's have directly told me (apologizing for it happening) via a /tell conversation with them saying they are opening an investigation with each incident I've reported and thanking me for reporting them. Abusing vote kick, according to the GM's I have personally talked to in game, is reportable because it affects *your* game experience.

The best response I've had with GM's after I report something, was about 24 hours later, and it was using the messaging system, not a /tell in game.

I submitted all of my GM Reports the same way you just described.

I have also previously worked as a complaint manager for a fortunate 250 company, so I made sure to write it in a fashion that both clearly accents my distress while being professional at the same time, and providing as much detail to the situation as I can.

I Enjoy the game. I enjoy the subcommunity I currently play with / alongside. I have a HUGE appreciation for Naoki Yoshida & his Develpment team. For the most part, the community team seems very interested and dedicated to keeping the Forums as a good/welcoming/app place. (As much as internet forums can be)

The In Game GM's are a huge weak point in this structure. If anything was ever done about any of the GM calls I've put in. (maybe 4 or 5) I am completely unaware. I think I was only contacted about a single issue, it was a reply that asked me for more info, had specific questions. I responded and answered each question one at a time. When I responded, I eventually got exactly the same questions as a reply to my answers, and I don't think I ever received closure, just it was automatically closed after X number of days. This seems to be common feedback on the forums when people discuss GM Reports.

[Jamillion]

What world are you guys on where everyone is such an ass?

[Zedd702]

What world are you guys on where everyone is such an ass?

Numerous worlds have this issue. I technically have not "experienced" this, but I have numerous friends that have complained about this issue as they progress or attempted to progress through the story...

[Edeline]

I personally love extra soldiery messages, as long as it doesn't show when I join an exclusively FARMING PF party. Sometimes it's an alt of someone who already cleared said fights, or someone who has wiped nearly in the end, experiencing the whole fight. However the cases of people saying they know the fight and just didn't get the kill is too high, resulting in hours of wiping, mind again, on a suposed farming party. But outside farming parties, I don't actually know anyone, nor met anyone who kicked someone in a trial/dungeon/raid for being new to said content (which can practically get carried through), and in fact I see positive comments like "omg I love you newbie" or "aw yisss soldiery". If you get kicked from DF for being first timer on it, report the douches who abused the kick, but nothing can be done if you join a PF with certain rules. You can't choose who you get/join in DF, but you can choose to join or not the PF parties with said rules.

[BlaiseArath]

1000char

Not to disagree, though I'm totally going to disagree.

The only reason I do main scenario, Moogle Hard, Leviathan Hard, and Ramuh hard is because i actively fish for newbies. That soldiery bonus is the only good thing to come out of those dungeons... and without fail, everytime I see the message, the party is happy about it, not upset. Even when I did T7, as a new person, no one cared and one dude had DreadWyrm armor, and when we got to the boss, the only thing that was said was "I saw the new message, anyone need a run down of the fight?", I told them it was me, saw the video, and was prepared. We lost the first round due to a bad petrify, and no one rage quit... won the second round, and surprisingly enough no one blamed me (the new guy!) for the first failure! (Cause I actually did know the fight and wasn't the cause of the wipe, surprising how education works)

So, I'm not saying it never happens... I'm sure it does, theres a lot of jerks out there... but if said new person sucks at the fight, the party is going to disband or boot them anyway, regardless of a myth message being displayed. I know I'm probably a rare case here but I'm genuinely excited when I see the Soldiery/Bonus message, and In most groups every member I'm with is happy about it too.

I get the problem exists but I don't think its as rampant as implied here.

[axemtitanium]

Every time I've seen the bonus 100 myth message during Trial Roulette or DF first Coil of Bahamut, I have personally thanked the new person for the extra tomes and proceeded to one or two shot the fight. I have never experienced otherwise. I think Gremukah's characterization of the malicious situation the OP is referring to as being "rare" is quite accurate.

[Whiston]

Every time I've seen the bonus 100 myth message during Trial Roulette or DF first Coil of Bahamut, I have personally thanked the new person for the extra tomes and proceeded to one or two shot the fight. I have never experienced otherwise. I think Gremukah's characterization of the malicious situation the OP is referring to as being "rare" is quite accurate.

Quoted for absolute truth.

I would find it extremely hard to believe anyone would require more than a single hand to count genuine cases of this being the reason for vote kick.

Typically it's more due to being rude or ignorant. Immediately being defensive if some queries who the new person is probably isn't very productive either, as I've seen many times.