How is SMN overall dps?

[Camalott]

Honestly, they're not that far behind from what I can tell and have been told(talking equally geared and skilled comparisons in optimal situations).

The issue comes when the BRD pops a song and takes that DPS hit. They sacrifice DPS for utility.

All of this is ridiculously circumstantial.

EDIT: Are you just looking for what will flat out put up numbers?

[SpookyGhost]

BRD DPS doesn't matter, they can go pretty high if played correctly but the main benefit in bringing a BRD is their songs. Every 8man group will bring a BRD, so you'll always be wanted.

BLM has really high AOE DPS, and average/above average single target DPS. Their DPS is highly dependent on how much they have to move per fight and how good they are at minimizing that movement.

SMN has decent AOE, and great AOE for 2-3 targets. Their single target DPS can be really high as long as they either don't run out of MP or get Mage's Ballad at some point.

My suggestion is to try all the DPS jobs and see what one you like best.

[Heal_Bot]

hmm, what about DRG? I hear they could be getting a buff soon since they aren't all that awesome at this point?

[Maero]

Dragoon is still very good and i have seen impressive dps out of some dragoons. Problem being most players (not all) that play dragoon do not know how to play the class properly, so numbers are sorta misleading. While not anywhere near aoe of a blm i would consider the aoe of dragoon the best of the melee classes at this time.
With that said however they are still slightly behind Monk and Ninja, not a gigantic gap but noticeable. Everyone is hoping the buff will bring Dragoon on par or do slightly more dmg then the other 2 classes but none know yet.

[Heal_Bot]

thank you Maero for that!

Dragoon I go I guess I will take a leap of faith that I don't suck at it and that the buff will be a good one

[Maero]

Your welcome, and Dragoon is the Poster child of the 3.0 expansion so i am hoping the buff is a big one

[Tharian]

A summoner who runs out of MP isn't playing the game right.

[Cynfael]

A summoner who runs out of MP isn't playing the game right.

A SMN who doesn't run out of MP in FCOB probably isn't maximizing their DPS or is getting Ballad.

[Tharian]

A SMN who doesn't run out of MP in FCOB probably isn't maximizing their DPS or is getting Ballad.

I wouldn't know as I haven't played in Final Coil of Bahamut yet. However I do know that Summoner (and Scholar by extension) have the single best native MP regain abilities aside from Black Mage. And Black Mage only beats them out because of Umbral Ice III.

[Odowla]

A SMN that DOESNT run out of MP is doing it wrong. If you're not running out of MP, you're not pushing DPS as hard as you can. I mained SMN from release until 2.4, and Yeah, you pretty much have to drain your MP really quickly to even keep up with other classes. Aetherflow ain't shit when drain twice as much MP in half the time.

Especially so in FCoB, where all of the fights are, assuming a kill at enrage, 10-14 minutes long. A lot of this will need to be done without ballad, unless the healers require it, because 2 Melee + Bard + 2 Tanks > SMN in terms of resources, so you're more likely to get Paeon than ballad, unless the healers need it. You CAN gro for 11 minutes as a SMN, but you're going to be cutting so much damage to do it.