Only on a Final Fantasy Forum...

[Vlaude]

Hey guys, I know! Let's all get really upset and miserable and depressed on an internet forum about a video game! Doesn't THAT sound like a great time? WOOHOO!

[Kimahri]

Well all I know is that of the three MMOs I am following closely at the moment, there is no heated discussion about jumping, or maybe that's because those games already implemented the feature long ago, along with swimming and climbing and a million other things to add to the exploration of the gameworld they designed.

Now I quoted this to point out something. Nothing negative, just some observations. I can totally see how swimming and climbing could potentially be a way to explore some new area's of the world. It can easily go up there with the airships and boats.

What I don't see is how jumping can lead to more exploration? The hell would I be doing, jumping up a wall to the clouds up above where fairies dance? I don't see a practical application for jumping besides a jump to occur automatically when a small hill or short fall is required.

[gifthorse]

Hey guys, I know! Let's all get really upset and miserable and depressed on an internet forum about a video game! Doesn't THAT sound like a great time? WOOHOO!

Pick you up at 8!

Now I quoted this to point out something. Nothing negative, just some observations. I can totally see how swimming and climbing could potentially be a way to explore some new area's of the world. It can easily go up there with the airships and boats.

What I don't see is how jumping can lead to more exploration? The hell would I be doing, jumping up a wall to the clouds up above where fairies dance? I don't see a practical application for jumping besides a jump to occur automatically when a small hill or short fall is required.

Couldn't you say the same thing for every motion?

It's all just as futile when you put it that way.

At least jump adds a sense of accomplishment since you actually have to manually get to the area as opposed to just running along a pre-determined linear path.

[Abriael]

At least jump adds a sense of accomplishment since you actually have to manually get to the area as opposed to just running along a pre-determined linear path.

And since you find that kind of action so satisfying, couldn't you just play a platformer, that has the mechanic implemented better than any MMORPG ever could?
I suggest the old Shinobi for PS2. Believe me, you'll feel a TRUCKTON of accomplishment after finishing it. If you don't break your TV with a brick before getting there.

That instead of demanding the introduction of platforming mechanics in a MMORPG, that normally tend to look extremely awkward, and to frustrate to no end the (many) that don't enjoy that kind of gameplay belonging to another genre?

[Vlaude]

Pick you up at 8!

I'm JUMPING for joy!

[gifthorse]

And since you find that kind of action so satisfying, couldn't you just play a platformer, that has the mechanic implemented better than any MMORPG ever could?
I suggest the old Shinobi for PS2. Believe me, you'll feel a TRUCKTON of accomplishment after finishing it. If you don't break your TV with a brick before getting there.

That instead of demanding the introduction of platforming mechanics in a MMORPG, that normally tend to look extremely awkward, and to frustrate to no end the (many) that don't enjoy that kind of gameplay belonging to another genre?

I don't play single player games. Anyway, I can't be bothered getting into an argument of definitions about what an MMORPG is, so I'll just point you to the direction of the jumping thread so you can get out of mine.

[Ostia]

So hmm Whats wrong with jumping ?

[gifthorse]

I'm JUMPING for joy!

Not on our watch you ain't!

This... is... Final... Fantasy!

*kicks you into an endless black pit*

*Oh wait, there's no Z axis so you just hit an invisible wall*

[gifthorse]

So hmm Whats wrong with jumping ?

NUUUU! get out of my thead! All of you, out now! Scram!

[Abriael]

I don't play single player games. Anyway, I can't be bothered getting into an argument of definitions about what an MMORPG is, so I'll just point you to the direction of the jumping thread so you can get out of mine.

You're the one that started the thread talking about jumping (the fact that you did that with a false point doesn't really have any bearing on that, not to mention the fact that your attempt to use this thread to promote the idea that jumping should be implemented was veiled in a quite clumsy way, resulting quite evident), so you can't complain if people talk about jumping in "your" thread.
Mind you, you're even less entitled to complain considering that you, yourself, argued for jumping in this same thread in quite a few posts.

So you use the thread (that you say it's not about jumping) to argue about jumping, but others can't? Or maybe arguing FOR jumping is somehow "in topic", while arguing against it is magically "off topic"?

By the way, starting a thread on a discussion forum doesn't make it "yours". The forum doesn't belong to you, including all it's assets, threads started by you as well.
You can't really tell people that disagree with you to "go away".