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  1. #81
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    ruskie's Avatar
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    ... But only 5 accessory types:
    -Fending (VIT) (Used by PLD, WAR)
    -Healing (MND) (Used by SCH, WHM)
    -Slaying (STR) (Used by DRG, MNK)
    -Aiming (DEX) (Used by NIN, BRD)
    -Casting (INT) (Used by BLM, SCH)
    I'll give you A for effort and just say this would be the split. Basically you would go with this. This way you still get accessories for groups and you just pick one in that group to prioritize gearing first. This encourages people to play different job sets and at the same time helps by somewhat spliting the things. But what I'd like to see is that left side would be split further more so that each job would get it's own unique left side(sans belt). I'm tired of the fact that my pld looks the same as my war and that my whm looks the same as my sch... Then I would say go 600/week cap with each group having it's own set of tomes.
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  2. #82
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    Wow, from the looks of this thread, either a huge number of people must be doing FCoB, or a bunch of new content got added overnight that you can barely get by at ilv 110.
    That's a pretty horrible justification. There's nothing outside of Coil that you need to be above ilvl 95 to beat, but I don't see anyone purposely lowering their ilvl to what's required in order to win. I haven't seen people in Expert Roulette switching to full CT gear and base relic weapons. People didn't swap back to Darklight gear and Garuda weapons for 2.3's Expert Roulette, either, that I ever saw.
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  3. #83
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    Aranea Asmodai
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    As someone who enjoys playing pretty much any role I highly approve of this idea. It's rather unfair how much faster 'hardcore' raiding groups gear up rather than people still stuck in progression. one drop of dreadwyrm loot saves the lucky recipient ~2 full weeks of saving up poetics for an i130 piece even. Sure challenge shall be rewarded but I think even an increase by about ~100 would help me NOT having to settle on a single endgame class.
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  4. #84
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    Izsha Azel
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Trixxy View Post
    As someone who enjoys playing pretty much any role I highly approve of this idea. It's rather unfair how much faster 'hardcore' raiding groups gear up rather than people still stuck in progression. one drop of dreadwyrm loot saves the lucky recipient ~2 full weeks of saving up poetics for an i130 piece even. Sure challenge shall be rewarded but I think even an increase by about ~100 would help me NOT having to settle on a single endgame class.
    You don't even have 1 endgame class because your not doing endgame. There's no 'settling' going on there. How is it not 'fair' again that people clearing high level content get high level gear faster and people who dont, get it slower? (But you still get it eventually anyway mind you)
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    Last edited by Izsha; 11-21-2014 at 02:41 AM.

  5. #85
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Well maybe if Square offered equal alternatives for gear that is not tome based or coil based, we wouldn't be in this position.

    Why do they need to? If you aren't doing Coil any activity is tuned for either fresh 50 or you are synced to 110. So actually no... they don't need to offer any 111+ gear outside of raiding.


    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    That's a pretty horrible justification. There's nothing outside of Coil that you need to be above ilvl 95 to beat, but I don't see anyone purposely lowering their ilvl to what's required in order to win. I haven't seen people in Expert Roulette switching to full CT gear and base relic weapons. People didn't swap back to Darklight gear and Garuda weapons for 2.3's Expert Roulette, either, that I ever saw.
    Is this where I point out that the hardest group content is tuned FAR below 110.

    fixed for accuracy
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    Last edited by Zarzak; 11-21-2014 at 04:31 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

  6. #86
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    Is this where I point out that expert roulette syncs you to 110?
    The Experts are unsynced, the High level dungeons are the ones with i110sync.
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  7. #87
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    Ast Eryut
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Poetics is endgame for me besides the weapons so 450 per week is a good number. Also, at end game we're not supposed to have the latest/best gear for all classes. End game is about 1 role you dedicate to.
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  8. #88
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    You don't even have 1 endgame class because your not doing endgame. There's no 'settling' going on there. How is it not 'fair' again that people clearing high level content get high level gear faster and people who dont, get it slower? (But you still get it eventually anyway mind you)
    Until they make hunts/CT op as hell again anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

  9. #89
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    Bargain Lancer
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 28
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    The ONLY reason you need over 110 for anything is final coil. In which case you don't need to fully poetic your class because you will get some slots from FCoB.
    Technically, this isn't true. You can clear all of the turns of Final Coil of Bahamut perfectly fine in full i110 gear. Evidence here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoXz...TQj13CHjJxD04w

    I see very little reason to up the cap of Poetics to 600. Raising the cap any further than it currently is, you might as well just remove it entirely and just let people grind to their hearts content. Gear alone doesn't make the player. You still will need a competent group to complete Coil regardless of gear. The fact that there are groups out there that can clear T1-T5 of Coil in i55 gear and T10-13 in i110 gear is evidence enough that it's not gear bound. Gear helps, but you still need to play your role and have others that do the same.
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  10. #90
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    Izsha Azel
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Did someone seriously beat t1-5 in i55 gear without echo? For realz? That's crazyness.
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