Up Poetics Cap to 600.

[Zarzak]

I concur. It's about the principle of supporting "multiple Jobs, one character" which this game was advertised around.

It's not enough that we can get outdated gear on an alternate Job.

It doesn't help either that the weekly loot lockout is only conducive to gearing a main until as you mention, the life-cycle of the current end-game is already halfway over.

I think people are being overly dramatic in the sense that 150 more in a week will hardly impact things.

It's irrelevant that they've already raised it as it wasn't enough to support their marketed system.

Yes because full 110 is horribly geared. I see exactly what you mean.

Next people will be expecting full 130 on every class inside of a month of the patch or riot.


And half way over? Lol it hasn't even been a month.

It is really unbelievable what gaming has turned into. They literally throw gear 1 tier behind current at you and people still find something to complain about.

God forbid they make you actually progress instead of letting you skip right to the end.

[Izsha]

The thing is, you can play every job adequately. Sold/Scob gear is unlimited. You can do anything on any job in this game with 110 gear. They drew a line foe ONE event in this game. The current coil tier. That is the one and only thing in this game you can't do on every job and that is by design. It is paced intentionally so you can't spam up tome gear to break down the relevant endgame raid so easily.

Being unable to do the top of the top 3 raid fights (1st one is always designed clear able with last patches gear) on every job is not destroying the multiple job system. 99% of the game you are completely free. 3 fights designed as the hardest thing in the game you arent. Cutting edge content requires specialization., and with steep.vertical progression you can rotate your specialization every 3 months. I was a war main a month ago. Now I'm a 113 nin main on a class that didn't exist a month ago. This game is hugely flexible.

[Tiggy]

the life-cycle of the current end-game is already halfway over.

Lol, the life cycle of end game is 6 months and the most recent cycle just started less than one month ago. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't want it to be higher than 450. It already makes it difficult enough to cap if I have a busy week. Since I raid I'm obligated to cap out each week so that I don't fall behind and hinder the group. More points would make it that much harder to play this game and keep up. Right now I can do the expert roulette on most days of the week and I'm good. With any increase in points I'd be forced to do it every day and then some. I'm entirely against this idea.

[DoctorPepper]

I support the idea to increase poetic cap to 600, I've always found that 450 isn't quite enough some weeks.

At 600 poetic per week you're still looking at approximately 9 weeks to gear up 1 job completely (excluding the weapon and fcob gear) which means that assuming there is a 6 month turnaround on new gear every time, it would still be impossible to gear up more than 3 jobs completely before new gear is released.

That seems far within reason for a game that boasts the ability to play multiple jobs on a single character.

[DoctorPepper]

Lol, the life cycle of end game is 6 months and the most recent cycle just started less than one month ago. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't want it to be higher than 450. It already makes it difficult enough to cap if I have a busy week. Since I raid I'm obligated to cap out each week so that I don't fall behind and hinder the group. More points would make it that much harder to play this game and keep up. Right now I can do the expert roulette on most days of the week and I'm good. With any increase in points I'd be forced to do it every day and then some. I'm entirely against this idea.

I don't quite understand why you feel it would become your obligation to cap out every week. Would your raid group really kick you if it still took 12 weeks to gear up instead of 9? I find that highly unlikely unless your raid group is full of jerks, and if you're raiding you have a possibility of getting drops as well which would further decrease the amount of time it takes to gear up whatever main you use for raiding.

An increased cap doesn't hinder anybodies ability to gear up, it only increases it and gives them the option to play more than one or two jobs effectively if they actually want to. It is not and never will be a requirement.

[Toodles]

Yes because full 110 is horribly geared. I see exactly what you mean.

Don't be rude & try to make points out of my post that just aren't there.

My whole point (which was obvious) is its the principle of the matter, no where did I mention full i110 being bad.

Lol, the life cycle of end game is 6 months and the most recent cycle just started less than one month ago. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Don't be rude & ignore the context, cutting out half of that sentence... if you'd paid attention contextually you would understand I'm referencing about the above-posters point.

Way to try to spin my words & publicly shame me, that's cool.

[Izsha]

The fact remains that you can freely play any job you want with 110 gear, 115 weapon, and 115 accs (1 for each primal during the current phase. Currently just shiva) with unrestricted farming on anything in the game except 3 fights (which was still done with extreme skill). It IS a multi job game. 3 fights you have to specialize or just be rediculous awesome. Don't change the while system because you can't go to t13 on your 5th job 2 weeks into the patch.

There's nothing to fix.

[DoctorPepper]

The fact remains that you can freely play any job you want with 110 gear, 115 weapon, and 115 accs (1 for each primal during the current phase. Currently just shiva) with unrestricted farming on anything in the game except 3 fights (which was still done with extreme skill). It IS a multi job game. 3 fights you have to specialize or just be rediculous awesome. Don't change the while system because you can't go to t13 on your 5th job 2 weeks into the patch.

There's nothing to fix.

You clearly didn't even do the math, a change to 600 would only allow you to gear up 3 jobs in 6 months bud, not even close to 5 jobs in 2 weeks. Nobody is asking for a change to the whole system, just a little more leeway to enjoy the game a little more. Please read the thread, or if you already have then read it again, because you clearly missed the entire point.

[Zarzak]

I support the idea to increase poetic cap to 600, I've always found that 450 isn't quite enough some weeks.

At 600 poetic per week you're still looking at approximately 9 weeks to gear up 1 job completely (excluding the weapon and fcob gear) which means that assuming there is a 6 month turnaround on new gear every time, it would still be impossible to gear up more than 3 jobs completely before new gear is released.

That seems far within reason for a game that boasts the ability to play multiple jobs on a single character.

And you don't need ilvl 120 to play every job on a single character.

The ONLY reason you need over 110 for anything is final coil. In which case you don't need to fully poetic your class because you will get some slots from FCoB.

[Tiggy]

I don't quite understand why you feel it would become your obligation to cap out every week. Would your raid group really kick you if it still took 12 weeks to gear up instead of 9? I find that highly unlikely unless your raid group is full of jerks, and if you're raiding you have a possibility of getting drops as well which would further decrease the amount of time it takes to gear up whatever main you use for raiding.

It has nothing to do with what they do or don't expect. If I join a raid group I've made a commitment to bring my all X times a week until we disband. My all includes every single poetic point I can get so that I always have the most up to date gear I can get. While it may seem entirely self imposed I can assure you that if they continue to cap each week and their gear starts distancing itself from my gear due to my failure at capping then they will say something and express disappointment. If it gets extreme enough they would get rid of me. All because I made a commitment to them to bring my all. Progression is very serious to some groups and if I'm not acting serious then I wouldn't appear to be a good fit for the group. That's how some end game groups are and it has nothing to do with them being jerks or being hateful. We all joined the 8 man team with a combined goal that we all agreed to too work hard, play hard, and to bring our all. It would be a huge disservice on my part if I failed to honor that commitment and an insult to my teammates who do put the time in each week. I would honestly expect that if I'm so busy I can't cap and keep up that they should replace me with someone who is able to do it. Right now I'm able to raid while casually keeping my points up on off days. If this change happened it would make it tougher to justify my position to even myself in a raid group.

It would be a mistake to assume I'm the only person who would feel this way.