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  1. #11
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    So the "constantly monitoring" of players' progression by SE doesn't make sense.

    Patch 2.4 they obviously want everyone to catch up, but not catch up too quick. I see this as a great divide IMO particularly on my server that is Legacy, because Legacy typically means end-game focused, so while those of us had really bad luck getting any Atma weapon pre-2.4 we are going to be even further behind if we manage to even get an Animus/Novus before expan$ion (I still don't know which comes first) because everyone else is on the higher tiers.

    How am I supposed to focus on Alexandrites when the rest of my FC are focused on i130/i135 and I am still on an Atma weapon? Do I have to solo grind to a Animus/Novus/Nexus etc? The i110 weapon grind for a Sands Of Time was awful and is not enjoyable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    because it was to easy before
    This would be a valid argument if it were not for the fact that SE stated they were making it easier than it was, and ended up making it harder. They did the opposite of what was said and it didn't take more than third-grader math to figure out that would be the case.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by NationOfZealots View Post
    So the "constantly monitoring" of players' progression by SE doesn't make sense.

    Patch 2.4 they obviously want everyone to catch up, but not catch up too quick. I see this as a great divide IMO particularly on my server that is Legacy, because Legacy typically means end-game focused, so while those of us had really bad luck getting any Atma weapon pre-2.4 we are going to be even further behind if we manage to even get an Animus/Novus before expan$ion (I still don't know which comes first) because everyone else is on the higher tiers.

    How am I supposed to focus on Alexandrites when the rest of my FC are focused on i130/i135 and I am still on an Atma weapon? Do I have to solo grind to a Animus/Novus/Nexus etc? The i110 weapon grind for a Sands Of Time was awful and is not enjoyable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    This would be a valid argument if it were not for the fact that SE stated they were making it easier than it was, and ended up making it harder. They did the opposite of what was said and it didn't take more than third-grader math to figure out that would be the case.
    I'm glad to see other people capable of seeing the big picture. Well put. (not sarcasm.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    This would be a valid argument if it were not for the fact that SE stated they were making it easier than it was, and ended up making it harder. They did the opposite of what was said and it didn't take more than third-grader math to figure out that would be the case.
    Ppl cried for an atma ease, because the rng there was to bad, they got what they wanted + making novus easier obtainable by increased alexandrite drop conditions by fates
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    I think it is too early to ease this section of the relic quest. Was it not just in 2.4 where the atma drop rate was eased? They will make alexandrite easier to collect, but just not this soon maybe 2.45. And if you are going for all relic novus like it sounds you are, good luck with that, 4 sets of pre-nerfed atma for 4 weapons nearly killed me O.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    making novus easier obtainable by increased alexandrite drop conditions by fates
    When was the Alex drop rate in fates increased? It's news to me. It's still 1% as far as I know. If they made the Alex drop rate the same as the Atmas they would still take much much longer to collect - 12 vs 75.
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    I didnt write increased droprate, I wrote increased conditions

    you can get alexandrite by wearing novus and probably nexus weapons too, now
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    I didnt write increased droprate, I wrote increased conditions

    you can get alexandrite by wearing novus and probably nexus weapons too, now
    You didnt say increased drop rates but you said "easier obtainable" which is also a false statement. The drop rate is still the same but you can now, if you -already- have a novus can choose to farm light from fates and try to get alexandrite.

    This doesnt mean alexandrite is easier to obtain, because people who dont have a Novus still have a more time consuming opportunity as opposed to those who were trying to get novus in 2.38. It only means people who are trying to get nexus can also maybe get 5-10 alexandrite after their 3000 FATEs to get Nexus.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    Ah i see, the part about being a dps and having dps queues. Excuse me for thinking about new players and putting how they might feel trying to obtain grade IV materia for their relics.

    (if you must know i'm 50 both PLD and WAR of which are my mains actually thus when i need into a dungeon i get in instantly. Not everyone has that option though.)
    Who said you "have" to dungeons to get grade 4 materia? You can easily SB outside of dungeons and get all required materia without waiting for ques...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levis View Post
    Who said you "have" to dungeons to get grade 4 materia? You can easily SB outside of dungeons and get all required materia without waiting for ques...
    I certainly did not. But if youre melding Grade IV, the likeliness of getting IV from i46-i50 to spiritbond outside of a dungeon is quite low, then the likeliness of getting a tier IV that you specifically want to meld is also low. The best way to obtain your desired grade IV is to spiritbond i70+ in a dungeon so youre not fighting actually getting a grade IV to begin with.
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