Only on a Final Fantasy Forum...

[Abriael]

pro tip being too serious on a video game is just as silly.

even if the game has a serious theme. War is serious yes? want/need me to upload every us army in iraq dance vid? they even have Tik Tok by that Ka$ha even seen a vid of some silly isriali dance mix macarana with disco XD
Just because something is serious don't mean you need to be serious. More so if it a game. I like ppl being silly it makes games fun. If i wanted to deal with serious ppl all day i would no play games and just work 24/7.

I'm not at war with anyone. So I don't feel the need to be silly at every corner of my life. Especially considering I have to deal with sillyness (and plain stupidity) every day at work.

It's quite obvious that many people's enjoyment of the game is disturbed by bunny hoppers and random jumpers. Otherwise there wouldn't be threads like this in basically every forum dedicated to a MMORPG. You may enjoy it. Others don't. Many offered mediated solutions that allow the functionality of jumping without bothering other people.

You prefer all or nothing. I guess bothering other people for the sake of "sillyness" doesn't bother you.

[Blackheart]

I'm not at war with anyone. So I don't feel the need to be silly at every corner of my life. Especially considering I have to deal with sillyness (and plain stupidity) every day at work.

It's quite obvious that many people's enjoyment of the game is disturbed by bunny hoppers and random jumpers. Otherwise there wouldn't be threads like this in basically every forum dedicated to a MMORPG. You may enjoy it. Others don't. Many offered mediated solutions that allow the functionality of jumping without bothering other people.

You prefer all or nothing. I guess bothering other people for the sake of "sillyness" doesn't bother you.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but if they are truly being bothers they could....you know..um...leave...? or...stop posting...? or for the sake of argument they don't really have to READ what people say....then again i could just be insane

[Abriael]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but if they are truly being bothers they could....you know..um...leave...? or...stop posting...? or for the sake of argument they don't really have to READ what people say....then again i could just be insane

I'm afraid you didn't really understand what "bothering" was referred to.

[AmyRae]

It's quite obvious that many people's enjoyment of the game is disturbed by bunny hoppers and random jumpers. Otherwise there wouldn't be threads like this in basically every forum dedicated to a MMORPG. You may enjoy it. Others don't. Many offered mediated solutions that allow the functionality of jumping without bothering other people.

First of all, you're wrong in presuming that jumping can only be implemented with "bunny hopping" in mind. Many games have examples where jumping up and down constantly is either not possible or is more cumbersome than traveling by other means.

Second, the idea that you shouldn't implement a feature because people could find a way to make it annoying is not a winning argument. In FFXI there was no jumping, but could people be annoying? They could run around you in circles or set /follow on your character or camp right on top of you. Does that mean we should eliminate walking? Or /follow? Or not allow people to move near anyone else? How about using <calls>, it was annoying, but was it always bad? People developed a certain etiquette around these things, and because people wanted to get along (most of the time), you often didn't have many problems. Having the freedom to use certain tools is more valuable than being restricted from useful features because it might irritate someone.

I don't really care about jumps either way, but many people do see it as a valuable traveling option in certain situations with the opportunity of further game-in use like in quests and dungeons. Sure, maybe someone will think of a way to bug you with it, but that's what etiquette, kicking people from parties and linkshells, and calling GMs are for.

[Abriael]

They don't need to "think of a way". A way already exists, and is always widely used in any game in which is possible.

The fact that people can find other ways to be annoying isn't a reason to implement MORE elements of annoyance.

If map design is "cumbersome", you fix map design (IE the nonsensical invisible walls), you don't implement gimmicks to get around it. You don't need to buy a new car to fix a blown tire.

[gifthorse]

Guys, take this to the designated jumping thread, seriously. This wasn't the point of my thread.

[Abriael]

Guys, take this to the designated jumping thread, seriously. This wasn't the point of my thread.

Considering that the point of your thread was entirely false (there's basically NO forum dedicated to any MMORPG, whether in beta or release, in which this topic hasn't been discussed to death and beyond), I would say using it for discussion is quite more constructive than to spread misconceptions.

[gifthorse]

Considering that the point of your thread was entirely false (there's basically NO forum dedicated to any MMORPG, whether in beta or release, in which this topic hasn't been discussed to death and beyond), I would say using it for discussion is quite more constructive than to spread misconceptions.

I don't know what MMO forums you go to, but the ones i go to have assumed it to be a given.

[Wynn]

Seriously, Abriael, what universe do you live in? The only MMOs that I know of in which you have a humanoid avatar that do not have jump are XI and XIV. People aren't discussing the validity of implementing jump in other MMO boards. Stop being such a troll.

[MariyaShidou]

This thread remind me of TES V Skyrim thread turned into Fast Travel debate, oh mind.