Please do not lock Jobs to the Weapon Class that unlocks them.

[Physic]

Now that I think about it, I don't actually see the problem with the whole BLM WHM thing.

Think about it. Conjurer has pretty much every single black mage spell already, right(haven't taken it up to 50 so I could be talking nonsense)? If Conjurer unlocks WHM at first(which we're not even sure that'll be the case), all that means is that those that want to heal strictly in a group switch to WHM and gain any and all abilities/bonuses conferred therein , whereas anyone who wants to nuke now has full leave to equip every single black magic spell they want and have at it as a straight up Conjurer. It's a win win scenario.

That's more of a temporary stopgap than anything though, assuming they stick with the 1-to-1 class/job unlocking for a long while at first, which I still don't like the sound of.

you forget that when you cross class skills they do like 30% less dmg/potency and are less accurate. so subjobing elemental spells is never the answer for a real DD. and its kind of backwards that you would have to level the whm job to be a DD.

[Malakhim]

you forget that when you cross class skills they do like 30% less dmg/potency and are less accurate. so subjobing elemental spells is never the answer for a real DD. and its kind of backwards that you would have to level the whm job to be a DD.

Jobs like WHM aren't going to level up in the traditional sense, and since you're using conjurer and conjurer black magic(I.E., not actually cross-classing), you aren't incurring any penalty for strictly nuking. Unlocking WHM doesn't suddenly kill your ability to nuke as a standard conjurer. It only limits you to healing and buffing actions and maybe bonus upon equipping it. You're not "sub-jobing" stuff that already belongs to your class.

Don't wanna be a healing conjurer, then don't equip the WHM job. When parties are looking for a healer, they'll just grab a WHM conjurer and not force the role onto you, so you can be free to cast fire spells to your heart's content.

[Physic]

Jobs like WHM aren't going to level up in the traditional sense, and since you're using conjurer and conjurer black magic(I.E., not actually cross-classing), you aren't incurring any penalty for strictly nuking. Unlocking WHM doesn't suddenly kill your ability to nuke as a standard conjurer. It only limits you to healing and buffing actions and maybe bonus upon equipping it. You're not "sub-jobing" stuff that already belongs to your class.

Don't wanna be a healing conjurer, then don't equip the WHM job. When parties are looking for a healer, they'll just grab a WHM conjurer and not force the role onto you, so you can be free to cast fire spells to your heart's content.

true, except that if thaum gets blm, which it will have to sinced blm is confirmed, if they dont add another class, it means they will now probably get skills that increase thier dmg or ability to do damage, sooooo the con DD will be noticeably weaker, but i guess it can back up heal.

[Alaltus]

true, except that if thaum gets blm, which it will have to sinced blm is confirmed, if they dont add another class, it means they will now probably get skills that increase thier dmg or ability to do damage, sooooo the con DD will be noticeably weaker, but i guess it can back up heal.

Its all ass backwards if they do implement it that way. I mean they will have chosen conjurer as whm just because of the cure/na spellsets when thaumaturge lacks the entire core of Blm's spells aka Elemental nukes/dots and ams.

[Malakhim]

true, except that if thaum gets blm, which it will have to sinced blm is confirmed, if they dont add another class, it means they will now probably get skills that increase thier dmg or ability to do damage, sooooo the con DD will be noticeably weaker, but i guess it can back up heal.

Is it really confirmed or is it thought to be confirmed due to taking a Yoshi P statement about the "ideal party setup includes a DD(nuker)" out of context?

No insult, serious question. It would suck if it were true.

[SuzakuCMX]

Is it really confirmed or is it thought to be confirmed due to taking a Yoshi P statement about the "ideal party setup includes a DD(nuker)" out of context?

No insult, serious question. It would suck if it were true.

It's confirmed. One of the Community Reps (maybe it was in this thread, even) told us that they were planning to release BRD, PLD, BLM, and WHM

[Rimmer]

It's confirmed. One of the Community Reps (maybe it was in this thread, even) told us that they were planning to release BRD, PLD, BLM, and WHM

Is that Bard i see there?

[Engineer]

Is that Bard i see there?

I don't see which class would get bard, unless jobs are not locked to a single class. I forget his name but the hyur from uldah dressed in black and white is a blade weilding bard..