What's the point of R50 Gear...

[Naylia]

If the OP has to find "motivation" to play a video game, perhaps he should re-examine his life choices.

Or maybe the video game should be improved.

There are lots of people who rush to cap and try to grind there way there as quickly as possible. But in FFXIV, there is almost nothing to do once you get there. As you rank along the way, there are new areas unlocked, new skills learned, story, etc. Once you are at 50 - all that comes to an end and the only existing content in the game is - Grind this content for gear, so that you can be better at grinding this same piece of content.

And yes...we all know new content is coming. But there is not this magical world of content that suddenly becomes available at 50. Instead it's actually the end of most of the content in the game (or super easy mode because there aren't lots of r50 quest lines or anything being released to play, anything else is lower rank). I can easily see reluctance to get to 50 because that ends the progression and story for your main class. And if it is a class you ranked up, and enjoy playing...well that's

[Belial]

Or maybe the video game should be improved.

There are lots of people who rush to cap and try to grind there way there as quickly as possible. But in FFXIV, there is almost nothing to do once you get there. As you rank along the way, there are new areas unlocked, new skills learned, story, etc. Once you are at 50 - all that comes to an end and the only existing content in the game is - Grind this content for gear, so that you can be better at grinding this same piece of content.

And yes...we all know new content is coming. But there is not this magical world of content that suddenly becomes available at 50. Instead it's actually the end of most of the content in the game (or super easy mode because there aren't lots of r50 quest lines or anything being released to play, anything else is lower rank). I can easily see reluctance to get to 50 because that ends the progression and story for your main class. And if it is a class you ranked up, and enjoy playing...well that's

The game is being improved... And it's been stated that this will take a long time. If you don't have the patience for this, play when the game is ready... Simple, no?

And again, there was never a plan for endgame at this level. We were not meant to sit at 50 for over a year doing nothing. People have known for a long time that there are large overhauls taking place. If the thread was addressed in the form of constructive feedback (ie; "I'd like to see this happen with gear...") then it would be different. But it wasn't. Useless whining about something that's going to be changed. No helpful tips, no solid suggestions...

And trust me, I've been at this game long enough to know what hitting 50 entails. I'm not bitching about it though... because I've read the information provided and understand what is changing. When new things are provided, be they mechanics, lore, endgame, then I will complain and offer suggestions if I see fit. But I'm not going to start pouting about something I know isn't going to be the same several months down the road.

[Budi]

This thread assumes 50 is the end all level cap also, and that the average person only wanted to level up one job to 50. 80% of FFXI for a while was leveling. Idk how long this playerbase *super pretentious* can take it though.

Well, my favourite class is Lancer and I want to play as a Lancer as much as I can, but right now there is nothing to do for me but leveling and obtaining gear.

Have you tried?

I tried most of the NMs and it's really boring. The fights are not challenging and are just a waste of time, because the gear on my retainer is better than the rewards (Templar's/Bucaneers/etc...).

I just think the OP of this thread is retarded as it is...

Can we keep insults out of this thread, thank you.

The game is being improved... And it's been stated that this will take a long time. If you don't have the patience for this, play when the game is ready... Simple, no?

And again, there was never a plan for endgame at this level. We were not meant to sit at 50 for over a year doing nothing. People have known for a long time that there are large overhauls taking place. If the thread was addressed in the form of constructive feedback (ie; "I'd like to see this happen with gear...") then it would be different. But it wasn't. Useless whining about something that's going to be changed. No helpful tips, no solid suggestions...

And trust me, I've been at this game long enough to know what hitting 50 entails. I'm not bitching about it though... because I've read the information provided and understand what is changing. When new things are provided, be they mechanics, lore, endgame, then I will complain and offer suggestions if I see fit. But I'm not going to start pouting about something I know isn't going to be the same several months down the road.

Explain to me how there wasn't a plan, obviously the old dev. team was so bad that they didn't know what a game is actually about.

At some point there will be nothing else we will be able to do, but to sit around with our Templar Haubergeons and Silver Tricornes.

What is more constructive than a discussion between people with different opinions?

You're optimistic if you think that it will take only seberal months to fix-... I mean create the endgame.

As I said, I'm not bitching about anything, I just want to find motivation to get to rank 50 other then being able to equip awesome looking gear.

[Nero]

I tried most of the NMs and it's really boring. The fights are not challenging and are just a waste of time, because the gear on my retainer is better than the rewards (Templar's/Bucaneers/etc...).

lol... Templars' gear is not the best Rank50 Gear in the Game.

Boring? Ok cool.. Then you can tell me how you killed Batraal and how you like the Mitts, Head and Lance from him.

[Jabo]

lol... Templars' gear is not the best Rank50 Gear in the Game.

I think that's what he meant.

Boring? Ok cool.. Then you can tell me how you killed Batraal and how you like the Mitts, Head and Lance from him.

Batraal isn't a NM.

[Nero]

I think that's what he meant.

No he said the Gear from Faction gear are better than NM Gear, which is absolutely wrong.

Batraal isn't a NM.

Thats why you get a "NM Achievement for it".. cause he is not a NM <_< lol

I know, that was the point ...

I didnt had the chance to fight Batraal yet, because apperantly the only classes people are looking for are Conjurers and Archers.

Wrong people then. Try to find a group which have enough skill to kill it the normal way.

[Budi]

No he said the Gear from Faction gear are better than NM Gear, which is absolutely wrong.

Faction gear is NM gear. -_-

[Jabo]

No he said the Gear from Faction gear are better than NM Gear, which is absolutely wrong.

I really don't know where you are reading that. He talked about items, which his retainer has. And the stuff you can buy or craft is better than the NM's eqipment. Even the new rank 50 stuff. Thats what he meant.

That's why you get a "NM Achievement for it".. cause he is not a NM <_< lol

I see him as the Dungeon Boss, not your classical NM, but i was clearly wrong, if he's mentioned officially as an NM.

PS.
No need to get disrespectful.

[Budi]

lol... Templars' gear is not the best Rank50 Gear in the Game.

Boring? Ok cool.. Then you can tell me how you killed Batraal and how you like the Mitts, Head and Lance from him.

I know, that was the point ...

I didnt had the chance to fight Batraal yet, because apperantly the only classes people are looking for are Conjurers and Archers.

[Belial]

Explain to me how there wasn't a plan, obviously the old dev. team was so bad that they didn't know what a game is actually about.

This sentence makes no sense. There wasn't a plan because the level cap was slated to be raised, prior to development team juggling and a rushed release... Sorry, but I'm not doing your research for you. You want to know about this game, what's getting fixed, what's considered broken, what was planned prior to Yoshi taking over, then go look it up. You're sitting on your ass in front of a computer, you can type several words into a search function without me holding your hand. And to make an assumption that the dev team was bad is asinine and short-sighted. Unless you work in the gaming industry and have a strong knowledge of SE's employees & processes, that comment holds no ground.

At some point there will be nothing else we will be able to do, but to sit around with our Templar Haubergeons and Silver Tricornes.

So... ? They never said they were going to overhaul the content of the game nor did they say they were going to provide tons of content for us while they fix the game. Constructing new systems from scratch, on the fly, with a deadline, is not an easy task. It requires time. Don't like it? Don't play until the game is ready.

What is more constructive than a discussion between people with different opinions?

What's more constructive? A lot of things. Just because you "have an opinion" does not make it constructive. You provided no alternatives, no suggestions, you just whined that there's nothing to do in a game that is known to lack content because it's not finished. Why is that concept hard for people? Do you go to a restaraunt to complain about the main course after only having the appetizer?

You're optimistic if you think that it will take only seberal months to fix-... I mean create the endgame.

I didn't say create endgame, you did. The game is getting fixed. It will be several months away, possibly into early 2012. You're asking people not to use insults in your thread, yet you throw out snide remarks as if your opinion is better. Must be nice on that extremely tall horse of yours.

As I said, I'm not bitching about anything, I just want to find motivation to get to rank 50 other then being able to equip awesome looking gear.

You are bitching. You're bitching about "having nothing to do." Well, like I said... come back when it's fixed.

On top of that, you're asking others to give you motivation to play a video game....... you're doing it wrong.