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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nie View Post
    Yeah you're right, I guess we should all remain R36 forever so there are 14 ranks of epic content above us.

    Really; if you don't want to be R50 then don't post negative crap about 1 out of 4 perfectly reasonably points made in a rebuttal. Enjoy being R36, or rank up, or quit.

    SE is putting out content finally and people are COMPLAINING that some of the gear is for max-rank players? Give me a break. There is lower rank content and the giant batch of NMs caters to mid-rank players...

    Should FFXIV's "Absolute Virtue" already exist? What do you really want from this game, seriously?
    I don't want more gear for lower levels. The only thing I'm complaining is the lack of content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    Basic premise of all MMo's:

    Level up > Get gear > Enter endgame > Get better gear > Do harder endgame > Get better gear

    The cycle then repeats as you increase the cap.

    The base line of any MMo, and to a lesser extent, any RPG, is to get better gear to get better gear, to get better gear.

    If you are this far along and you feel you need to ask this question, without realising this, then your issues are far bigger than your silly question.
    I've never played a MMORPG that works like that... :|

    I played so long because it was fun (and I have some friends I play with), but I fear that the moment I hit rank 50 playing Lancer wont be fun anymore because I'm only collecting gear.. or to get stronger for no reason.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budi View Post

    I played so long because it was fun (and I have some friends I play with), but I fear that the moment I hit rank 50 playing Lancer wont be fun anymore because I'm only collecting gear.. or to get stronger for no reason.
    Do you ever read the Producers Letter or Interviews?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budi View Post
    I've never played a MMORPG that works like that... :|
    Then you have never played an MMoRPG.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    Then you have never played an MMoRPG.
    If you say so.
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  5. #35
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    Go play Monster Hunter, it'll blow your mind! The entire point of the game is getting better gear to get better gear lol.

    That's just how progression works in video games. You get better gear, skills, abilities, whatever so you can keep progressing through the game to get even better gear, skills, abilities, whatever. That's how video game progression works, until you get to the end of the game. The only thing that's different in MMOs is that there is often higher tiers of endgame stuff to aspire to. If you've got a problem with it then MMOs are likely not for you.
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    Whats the point of playing?
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    You are all missing the point here.
    There should always be a better reason to "get stronger" than just to get new gear over and over again. For me it is a pointless system and the main reason i don't play WoW.

    Motivation could be different things. What about and interesting Location with tough enemys, a interesting storyline and so on. Basically that you're Gear or your rank helps you proceed in the world.
    Getting Gear, just to be able to get better Gear is the most stupid thing in a video game history i witnessed. Especially if caps are raised every 1-2 years.
    But don't get me wrong. Endgame content is a lot about that and there is nothing wrong with it. The problem starts when it becomes the only thing to do with your gear.
    The perfect system would be, if you actually need the gear to unlock certain content or that obtaining the best gear is the only way to defeat the toughest enemy's in the game. There should always be some kind of meaning to it.

    As it is for FFXIV.
    Being rank 45 or 50 makes very little difference and this is something Budi is trying to say.
    You can enjoy the best gear and all the content with rank 45 and some players need more motivation than "getting a little stronger" to level to the highest rank and I also think getting Rank 50 should offer something special. Don't know exactly what, but certainly more than it is now.

    But I also think it is something that SE is working at the moment. This game needs still a lot of work and players need patients.
    Especially content-wise.
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  8. #38
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    You forget that I'm talking about the moment you are Rank (47-)50, and not the way needed to get there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    That's just how progression works in video games. You get better gear, skills, abilities, whatever so you can keep progressing through the game to get even better gear, skills, abilities, whatever. That's how video game progression works, until you get to the end of the game. The only thing that's different in MMOs is that there is often higher tiers of endgame stuff to aspire to. If you've got a problem with it then MMOs are likely not for you.
    And all of these games have a solid story line and quests. You don't level/play to get gear, you play so you can see how the story continues/ends.

    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    Whats the point of playing?
    Fun, duh.


    As I said I played other MMO's. One MMO had more story content for the max level people than FFXIV has in total (incl. Side Quests.)
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    Seriously who gave Socrate's special brother a FFXIV account?
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