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    Ryvella Du'gal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    In that video its actually your whms fault that the drg died. Nobody is stoneskined for nerve cloud. When the party is killing the egg he has enough time to stoneskin everyone because very little damage is going out on the party at that point. You want a change when the fight isn't being properly executed.

    The whole mdef thing is just a flavor type thing most likly they can off tank adds better then say a mage. Some people use a drg to tank the garuda ex add because they have higher physical def so they only need 1 tank.
    They don't actually seem to have a white mage. I just see two scholars. Dragoon in our static never gets one shotted there with proper stoneskin buff.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyl View Post
    They don't actually seem to have a white mage. I just see two scholars. Dragoon in our static never gets one shotted there with proper stoneskin buff.
    SCH can still stoneskin there is no reason not to do it almost no damage is going out when you are killing the egg. Do you want to take the risk of someone dying cause the game decides to hit them in the higher damage range?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    SCH can still stoneskin there is no reason not to do it almost no damage is going out when you are killing the egg. Do you want to take the risk of someone dying cause the game decides to hit them in the higher damage range?
    No, I agree with you. There's plenty of skills and spells you can use to to make sure your entire group survives that aoe and it doesn't seem they were using all of them and the dragoon suffers because of it. I was simply pointing out there was no white mage.
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    Rumina Asou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    SCH can still stoneskin there is no reason not to do it almost no damage is going out when you are killing the egg. Do you want to take the risk of someone dying cause the game decides to hit them in the higher damage range?
    interesting thing, no one had stone skin. even with stone skin, unless he was topped off, he still would have died. OP said he took 6.6k dmg. take 600 for stone skin, and still not enough.
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    Last edited by Kaze3434; 11-16-2014 at 09:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    interesting thing, no one had stone skin. even with stone skin, unless he was topped off, he still would have died. OP said he took 6.6k dmg. take 600 for stone skin, and still not enough.
    I see that there wasn't a WHM but had there been a whm stoneskin would of mitigated 1080 damage at 6k hp. Most do have a whm though.
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    Lasdor Edenholt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyl View Post
    They don't actually seem to have a white mage. I just see two scholars. Dragoon in our static never gets one shotted there with proper stoneskin buff.
    You understand that it only reinforce our argument, right? Why Dragoons need any special protection while everybody else survive while under the same circumstance and having the same buffs? Good the Dragoons have high phy defence, but when all the one shot mechanics are based on magic damage it's a bit useless, as it's unlikely we'll be using a DRG to tank anything in a progression raid. We actually take care to keep him alive but for the sake of demonstration we picked a video in which everybody had the same buffs to show how "weird" it is. You can't use dated content to justify the low magic defence, because it's hard to find someone doing end game content and performing such stunt while undergeared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edenholt View Post
    You understand that it only reinforce our argument, right? Why Dragoons need any special protection while everybody else survive while under the same circumstance and having the same buffs? Good the Dragoons have high phy defence, but when all the one shot mechanics are based on magic damage it's a bit useless, as it's unlikely we'll be using a DRG to tank anything in a progression raid. We actually take care to keep him alive but for the sake of demonstration we picked a video in which everybody had the same buffs to show how "weird" it is. You can't use dated content to justify the low magic defence, because it's hard to find someone doing end game content and performing such stunt while undergeared.
    DPS that gets extra pampering and requires more attention to survive, yet output similar, if not less dps than others with less utility.
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