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  1. #51
    Player Fayto's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by xenosuke1 View Post
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    Ninja is unbalanced, this is evident to anyone that understands balance. Ninja's TP costs are the same as Monk with the potencies of Dragoon. They also get free power for no reason.
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  2. #52
    Player Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri's Avatar
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    Don't nerf NIN. Buff DRG to be on par instead.
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    Echo for scob for the non static players. Hat3rz g0nna hat3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomnium View Post
    Ninja - ninja-nerf!!! /lolz
    why would they nerf nin? mnk is still the strongest dd, so they should nerf mnk in that case.
    i'd guess at drg buff instead.
    or new relic step. echo buff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    Ninja is unbalanced, this is evident to anyone that understands balance. Ninja's TP costs are the same as Monk with the potencies of Dragoon. They also get free power for no reason.
    only aeolian edge has high potency. you're using 2 dots who are a bit more costly, and res debuff as well, which aren't as strong.
    either way, mnk is stronger, and drg is weaker; nin dont need nerf, drg need buff.
    nin needs free power, or it would be weaker than drg.
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    Last edited by Radacci; 11-15-2014 at 09:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    why would they nerf nin? mnk is still the strongest dd, so they should nerf mnk in that case.
    i'd guess at drg buff instead.
    or new relic step. echo buff.



    only aeolian edge has high potency. you're using 2 dots who are a bit more costly, and res debuff as well, which aren't as strong.
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    NIN have a lot of abilities that require no TP and you do not lose your combo when you interrupt to use them in between the combo actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xenosuke1 View Post
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    NINs arent fragile. They are pretty much equal to MNKs. If they were, they should have at the very least mdef as low as DRGs and HP like casters to be considered fragile.
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  7. #57
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    If they nerf anything on Ninja, it should be the DoT potencies. That's the only thing which strikes me as superior on Ninja. Even Ninjutsu, when used in a proper rotation, shouldn't be doing more than what Dragoon offers in Jumps, and the "Dragoon has direction requirements on combos, Ninja doesn't!" argument kind of falls flat when you consider than Dragoon has no requirements on Jumps, while Ninja has to contend with latency messing up Ninjutsu; not to mention while Ninja only has three directional requirements, meeting that requirement on Trick Attack is pretty damn vital. I'd honestly rather have my directional requirements on GCD rather than on abilities...
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  8. #58
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    I have a DRG in my static that changed to NIN. All I hear is "Goad please!" And "Trick attack incoming!"
    They're good because of the utilities, dps wise any good player could do the same or higher with a MNK. The difference is the boost they give to the rest of the party, which is why I prefer having a Nin in my static.
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  9. #59
    Player Fayto's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    why would they nerf nin? mnk is still the strongest dd, so they should nerf mnk in that case.
    i'd guess at drg buff instead.
    or new relic step. echo buff.

    only aeolian edge has high potency. you're using 2 dots who are a bit more costly, and res debuff as well, which aren't as strong.
    either way, mnk is stronger, and drg is weaker; nin dont need nerf, drg need buff.
    nin needs free power, or it would be weaker than drg.
    Sorry but Ninjas deal more DPS than us Monks, it is true. Also, no. Aeolian Edge isn't the only high potency, the DoTs and every Ninjutsu has high potency. Even Dancing Edge has high potency. Ninja's potencies are about as high as Dragoon's with the TP costs of Monk with free power. Monk and Dragoon has to work for their power, Ninja does not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    not to mention while Ninja only has three directional requirements, meeting that requirement on Trick Attack is pretty damn vital. I'd honestly rather have my directional requirements on GCD rather than on abilities...
    No, they have two. Technically one since you'll never use Sneak Attack.
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    Last edited by Fayto; 11-15-2014 at 10:28 PM.

  10. #60
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    No, they have two. Technically one since you'll never use Sneak Attack.
    I was counting Dancing Edge, though I guess that's simply for the potency, rather than the effect. Something they really should apply to Dragoon at this point.
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