DRG has been broken for far too long. Fix it SE

[kyrios91]

All the drg problems can be solved with a wyvern pet. Coming in Hevansward maybe?

If we get pets seriously I'm not gonna play the Job anymore. Just because we're "associated" with dragons doesn't mean we need to have one. Heck we're dragonslayers not a bunch of 14-year old girls playing pony quest adventure where you need to collect pets. Give pets to a frickin Beastmaster or something.

[DenebPunkin]

If we get pets seriously I'm not gonna play the Job anymore. Just because we're "associated" with dragons doesn't mean we need to have one. Heck we're dragonslayers not a bunch of 14-year old girls playing pony quest adventure where you need to collect pets. Give pets to a frickin Beastmaster or something.

Agreed. I dont see or understand where this "DRGs NEEEED Wyverns" thing comes from but it just dont make sense. Never has any DRG in FF (that I can recall or know of) have any pet wyverns.

[RikuSama]

As a i115DRG and soon to be i118 next week (going to have the new sands for my weap. and already hav the new oil for poetic ring), and who's been on t13 since last week, I can safely say that yes DRG do need a rework/buff.

As for positional, I don't want them to remove it, since I have no problem with them, sure from time to time I might miss a HT or a ID due to lack of focus or mechanics, but that rarely happens.

What I want for dragoon is to make them the true "Glass cannon" (in melee), because as of right now there's just the glass part.

And don't get me wrong I know a lot of people have a problem with their lackluster M.def.
and I do too, BUT (hear me out), that's one of the sacrifices for being this "glass cannon" type of job. It's true that they're not this all or nothing class right now, so having them have low M.def is pointless, however when they release the patch for DRG I hope that they leave the M.def as it is.

[RikuSama]

I'm not gonna go in-depth on how much potency they should raise for certain skill or make some skills off GCD, but I am going to propose an idea for the dev.

How bout making DRG the only job, where instead of crit dealing 150% we make it 200%

I know this might make Det. for DRG obsolete, but it's just a suggestion.

[Daweism]

I'm not gonna go in-depth on how much potency they should raise for certain skill or make some skills off GCD, but I am going to propose an idea for the dev.

How bout making DRG the only job, where instead of crit dealing 150% we make it 200%

I know this might make Det. for DRG obsolete, but it's just a suggestion.

It wouldn't make det obsolete since crit is a det multiplier.

[kyrios91]

Agreed. I dont see or understand where this "DRGs NEEEED Wyverns" thing comes from but it just dont make sense. Never has any DRG in FF (that I can recall or know of) have any pet wyverns.

Very true. Those people who suggests that we need a pet Dragon or something are just those nostalgic weaboos from FFXI that expects FFXIV is FFXI because apparently to them FFXI is the best game ever. Same as WoW players that keep wanting WoW to go back to its vanilla roots. It's like saying "OMG Final Fantasy XV sucks because there's no Cloud, Sephiroth, Tifa, and the Ultima Weapon because FFVII was the best game ever!".

Seriously if that does happen I hope there's an NPC to refund all my poetic gears and an NPC to trade my Gae Bolg Nexus for Sphairai Nexus because I'm either switching to PLD or MNK.

[JarinArenos]

Agreed. I dont see or understand where this "DRGs NEEEED Wyverns" thing comes from but it just dont make sense. Never has any DRG in FF (that I can recall or know of) have any pet wyverns.

Um... final fantasy freaking TWO, maybe? The first appearance of dragoons? Also the core class feature from Dragoons in FFXI.

Edit: I should clarify, I don't even play DRG, and have no opinion on how to fix them. I'm just nitpicking on the point of "No DRGs ever having wyverns".

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Very true. Those people who suggests that we need a pet Dragon or something are just those nostalgic weaboos from FFXI that expects FFXIV is FFXI because apparently to them FFXI is the best game ever. Same as WoW players that keep wanting WoW to go back to its vanilla roots. It's like saying "OMG Final Fantasy XV sucks because there's no Cloud, Sephiroth, Tifa, and the Ultima Weapon because FFVII was the best game ever!".

Seriously if that does happen I hope there's an NPC to refund all my poetic gears and an NPC to trade my Gae Bolg Nexus for Sphairai Nexus because I'm either switching to PLD or MNK.

I think you missed the point.

DRG was awful in FFXI and the wyvern was the most derp and useless thing ever. I am rather confident that those guys are just full of sarcasm.

[kyrios91]

Um... final fantasy freaking TWO, maybe? The first appearance of dragoons? Also the core class feature from Dragoons in FFXI.

Those have different backstories. In FF2 Dragoons were elite dragon-riding knights that served the nation but were wiped by The Emperor because he knows that they are strong enough to oppose him if the people wanted to bring him down. The fact that they are dragon riders means that they are friends with dragons. The same goes with FFXI's Dragoons and they were really strong at release, but the devs "re-balanced" the class and made the Job one of the most useless things ever next to a blunt pizza-cutting wheel.

In FFXIV, DRGs are the most elite knights of the Holy See which were specially trained to fight dragons. They're even more elite than the Temple Knights which are basically the hand of the Archbishop. If you play the game and follow everything related to Ishgard in the Main Story, you understand that dragons are the very mortal enemies of the Ishgardians and be"friending" dragons is an unforgivable sin (Look up Shiva and the Heretics) and for some reason, makes you "crazy". So making the Job having a dragon companion would be shitting all over the DRG lore which, IMO has the best lore in this game next to SMN. Their armor "look" dragonic because it is forged with the blood / life-force of dragons - basically putting the "facing fire with fire" kind of idea.

I think you missed the point.

DRG was awful in FFXI and the wyvern was the most derp and useless thing ever. I am rather confident that those guys are just full of sarcasm.

From what I've read I do think that they're being serious. Seriously IMHO people who suggested that DRGs need a pet are people who never even DRG at all.

[kyrios91]

I'm not gonna go in-depth on how much potency they should raise for certain skill or make some skills off GCD, but I am going to propose an idea for the dev.

How bout making DRG the only job, where instead of crit dealing 150% we make it 200%

I know this might make Det. for DRG obsolete, but it's just a suggestion.

I actually thought of something in the lines of DRGs having an innate buff (Like their "stance" but it's on everytime you're a DRG) where the effect is: "All of your weaponskills will deal double damage the first time it hits a new target". So it would be a neat thing for dealing with adds.