Bard needs some love too.

[LunarEmerald]

Ninjas are OP because they buff everyone's damage by 10%? It's not even a flat 10% like people are assuming... Like I said earlier, seems the archer mains want to do the most DPS while having everything for free.

Assuming? It says in the tooltip for Trick Attack that it's 10%.

Rear Bonus: Increases target's damage taken by 10% for 10s

[Eardstapa]

Assuming? It says in the tooltip for Trick Attack that it's 10%.

And that doesn't mean a 10% DPS increase... Maths. Never mind the fact it is 10 seconds, and since most people have little belief in skill or spell speed (It does require an insane amount for any real change...) most people sit comfortably around 2.45-2.5 GCD depending on their gear. That means, at worst you fit in 4 attacks during 10 seconds, at best 4.1; Point is, yes, it helps, but it's not as overbearing as many make it out to be.

[Felessan]

And that doesn't mean a 10% DPS increase... Maths.

With a good play/teamplay it means more than 10% increase.
Afaik TA is universal - it increase damage of everything by 10%. You can also burst in this 10s (and standard rotation for NIN assumes that you'll put crit Raiton just after every second TA) and also the way damage from dots calculated is very favorable for TA.
Internal release has the same cooldown as TA so you can have 10% crit+10% damage buffs stacked together

[Eardstapa]

With a good play/teamplay it means more than 10% increase.
Afaik TA is universal - it increase damage of everything by 10%. You can also burst in this 10s (and standard rotation for NIN assumes that you'll put crit Raiton just after every second TA) and also the way damage from dots calculated is very favorable for TA.
Internal release has the same cooldown as TA so you can have 10% crit+10% damage buffs stacked together

And yet according to everyone critical is a worthless stat because it is only 1.5x rather than 2x, yet here you are pulling it up. Thank you for at least acknowledging critical isn't terrible... But 10% damage taken increase does not mean 10% DPS increase over the entire course of the fight. It lasts 10 seconds, with any decent party in 4 mans, bosses last 3-4 minutes at most, you can use it 3-4 times. In raids, you may use it 10-12 times. You're just seeing the numbers and assuming...

[Felessan]

I could be 100% wrong here, I'm not a math wizard, but from what I remember damage increases are additive not multiplicative, so stacking other straight dps+% cooldowns during TA won't make a difference. Snapshotting DOT's and big damage cd's like Barrage/Raiton will definitely benefit from being used during TA

Yes, it's more to big attacks and stacking damage+% cooldowns together with alternative cooldowns for maximum effect (like IR, Barrage and Life Surge)

And yet according to everyone critical is a worthless stat because it is only 1.5x rather than 2x, yet here you are pulling it up. Thank you for at least acknowledging critical isn't terrible...

I wanna see those bards that say that crit is worthless stat. It have almost 1-to-1 weight to determination for bards even though det on gear have 1/1.5 weight.
And a buff is always a buff, even skillspeed one, even though last one have some nasty things attached.

But 10% damage taken increase does not mean 10% DPS increase over the entire course of the fight. It lasts 10 seconds, with any decent party in 4 mans, bosses last 3-4 minutes at most, you can use it 3-4 times. In raids, you may use it 10-12 times. You're just seeing the numbers and assuming...

I haven't seen that someone assumed that it'll be 10% straight dps increase over the entire fight. It will not. Same as Foe is not 10% increase for mages as BRD can maintain it limited duration (it takes a little bit more than twice time to regenerate mana spent on foe than foe lasts)
Normally you can assume 5 "DPS" in 8man raid (4 DPS + 2 Tanks) and then calculate efficiency of various buffs based on that. TA is better even with 2 mages around on single target and Foe obviously better on packs of 3 or larger even with one mage.