Bard needs some love too.

[Rose-Wild]

Ok so in regards to Ooshima i thought it was pretty obvious that i was being sarcastic. I know this is the internet and it's not that easy to see it...... Hes post was a joke.

To be honest the gear scaling is probably the biggest issue and if they fixed that i would be happy too. If that Bard did like 370 dps in t11 with a 130 weapon that shows how badly we need a fix to that because my average there is like 350-360 with a high allagan weapon and i doubt that the Bard of that party is bad at his job.

Also maybe a nice buff would be to make our dots magic damage so that they get affected by requiem but that might be a problem for t11.

And imo the only other dps Job that is usually around us is summ, but i think they are pretty good for t12 and t13. Imo they should get a buff to mana regen or make their spells consume less mana tho.

[Kyri]

Ok so in regards to Ooshima i thought it was pretty obvious that i was being sarcastic. I know this is the internet and it's not that easy to see it...... Hes post was a joke.

The person who's post you are referring to as a joke is one of my personal friends on Balmung, and has been a main BRD ever since he started playing FFXIV. In terms of his damage, he is consistently near the top in almost every content he does. When he referenced CT runs he also pointed out "before", as in "before ST even existed". Before Second Coil existed. Back when Philosophy tomestones were a reward. Back when CT filled the gap between Darklight and Allagan gear and people actually went to CT because they wanted that gear.

So, either Hiranai consistently gets paired up (even using Duty Finder) with a bunch of people who can't play their jobs and are undergeared, or other BRDs are not maximizing their potential, because I can say for an absolute fact that Hira puts out considerable damage as a BRD. Maybe not top DPS, but he keeps up with everyone well enough.

People don't invite BRDs to parties because they have amazing DPS potential. They bring them for the support they offer. This is why there should be a considerable gap between the DPS of other classes and BRD. MNKs and DRGs don't have much in the way of support to offer a party (if any), so they rely on their damage output to make them even marginally useful. BRDs will always be useful because of their utility. If SE were to make it so that BRDs put out damage comparable (even though lesser) than the other DPS classes, then I ask.. why would people bring them? If the past has taught me anything, people will elect to reduce their overall DPS by a small margin in favor of additional support options given the choice.

So yeah, BRDs don't need a buff. Would a buff be nice? Well certainly. Is it absolutely needed? No. If it ever gets to a point wherein having a BRD in your group becomes a deterrent to passing a harsh DPS check because they simply can't offer enough to push the party through it, then I'd advocate for a DPS boost.

[Felessan]

This is the usual misconception about Disembowel.
No, there is no 10% damage increase to bards. It's 6-7% at most.

It's straight 10% damage bonus, although it does not work on DoTs ticks.
As bards dots contribute slightly more than 20% of total damage, total increase will be slightly less than 8%.

Assuming? It says in the tooltip for Trick Attack that it's 10%.

Its flat 10% bonus that works in the same way as buffs does - i.e. dots tick damage depends only whether debuff was there or not only when dots were applied. And this part is much better than DE/Disembowel as those does not affect dots ticks.
Easily testable on dummy.

[Ooshima]

To be honest the gear scaling is probably the biggest issue and if they fixed that i would be happy too. If that Bard did like 370 dps in t11 with a 130 weapon that shows how badly we need a fix to that because my average there is like 350-360 with a high allagan weapon and i doubt that the Bard of that party is bad at his job..

TBH that bard with 370 clearing DPS on IL130 weapon can do better.

My FC have one BRD that cleared T11 with Nexus on 389. He's probably going to burst 400 when he have the IL130 weapon next week.

However do note that he was IL116 though. He had the Dreadwrym Gloves, Dreadwyrm Neck, Dreadwyrm Ring and Ironworks Ring that time.

Using a more relate-able fight for comparison - T9: We just farmed a few rounds of T9 about an hour ago, he's still on Nexus, and now he had the Dreadwyrm Pants so he is at IL119. I was lazy to change out my accessories so I was running at IL106, same Nexus weapon. With party buff, he is at 52 DEX higher than I do (581 VS 633), he parsed 361 while I parsed 343. That whooping 52 points of DEXTERITY translates to just about 20 DPS increase. That's how bad BRD's gear scaling is.

haha, yep. a few % off from a t13 kill. ;__; Tonight is the night, I think! How've you been? I see you're sporting an insane amount of crafted gear too.

Good luck with that, you can do it!

Still trying to find a capable and suitable team to fit into to progress further ;_;

I'm already ready to get past T11 on first week but then static have issues and broke over that, been a ronin and trying out with various teams (which are limited anyways) that are on T11 last phase, stuck there ever since.

For me we sold a lot of carries as a FC so we typically have the gil, and of course my raiding mentality is that I will try to bring the best I can to the table. The HP checks at the last 2 turn is tough for pre 2.4 gears so yeah, getting ready for everything

On a side note, aren't you sporting full crafted set too?

Cost wise isn't that bad, I was one of the first few (maybe first 5) in my server that does 4 star crafts, made some good money from there also.