Myth Message being used to excluded players

[Snugglebutt]

Reading is hard. I already explained my personal criteria in a post a number of pages back, and you're completely wrong. Do you want me to find it for you?

I would not use the ability to read another person comment as your argument if I was you since in this same thread I have had to tell you the same thing about your own lack of ability to comprehend what another person wrote. I refer you back to page six, comment number two down from the top and page ten, comment number one at the top.

In fact the poster you replied to is not actually wrong, you very much have said multiple times in here you only want people with clears, your restrictions are to weed out those without clears (even your restriction which I have countered multiple times in here on your use of soldiery notification being justification for kicking). You have admitted you would rather take people who bought clears or have been carried more so then taking anyone who is potentially competent but not cleared it of which many people including myself have pointed out the flaws in the way you go about such.

One piece of advice I might suggest to you is if everyone here keeps arguing with you then maybe it is not everyone else who is wrong and should look closer to home as to why everyone else keeps pointing out why your wrong. You clearly refuse to take on board what dozens of people have said in reply to your arguments and counters to your stance despite the common sense they are countering you with so maybe stop posting in this thread and do something more productive given no matter how many people point out errors or flaws in what you say...you still refuse to listen.

It would be one thing if you was just arguing with one person but if most people in here (which seems to be the case over past few pages) are telling you that you are wrong on something or simply made an error in something you said then it is far less likely the problem is with them...seems to me your on the defensive and maybe you feel frustrated because (you) think your right and everyone else is wrong but if that is the case surely you would be happier moving on to talk about something else in another thread rather than go around in circles not listening to most other people here in this one.

[Ellatrix]

There is no evidence that I am wrong. I build my party with my own restrictions, then it has a high win rate and I get my loot from farm content with minimal derps.

Once upon a time, I was naive and made PF for T5 back in 2.2 with echo that is as you described, blindly trusting in people to not lie. Those rarely ended well, so then I quickly moved straight up to multiple previous clears required and, to the surprise of it seems everyone but me, the competence level of the party rose dramatically and wipes went down significantly.

[Snugglebutt]

There is no evidence that I am wrong. I build my party with my own restrictions, then it has a high win rate and I get my loot from farm content with minimal derps.

Once upon a time, I was naive and made PF for T5 back in 2.2 with echo that is as you described, blindly trusting in people to not lie. Those rarely ended well, so then I quickly moved straight up to multiple previous clears required and, to the surprise of it seems everyone but me, the competence level of the party rose dramatically and wipes went down significantly.

I do not know whether it is your ego that is making you blind to the evidence many people have supplied in here or just that your in denial but whatever...many people here have given you truly vast amounts of evidence to counter your previous comments multiple times. You just refuse to acknowledge or accept that probably because of one or perhaps both of those reasons I just gave. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall at this stage and it serves no further purpose as long as you remain in that state of denial so from this point on I plan to ignore you.

[Maero]

Well i guess their time is too "precious".
People when they queue up should know that there is a chance of players that have not completed it.
Besides i don't mind helping new players out and reaaaaally love bonus tomes

[KitanaiKoneko]

I do not know whether it is your ego that is making you blind to the evidence many people have supplied in here or just that your in denial but whatever...many people here have given you truly vast amounts of evidence to counter your previous comments multiple times. You just refuse to acknowledge or accept that probably because of one or perhaps both of those reasons I just gave. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall at this stage and it serves no further purpose as long as you remain in that state of denial so from this point on I plan to ignore you.

"Your experiences don't count because someone else had different experiences."

[Snugglebutt]

"Your experiences don't count because someone else had different experiences."

You are making no sense, if you are going to jump into the discussion then take the time to understand what is being discussed. The evidence I am talking about that other people have supplied including myself is for the most part factual evidence that proves her comments were not accurate or true (some people might not have used facts to counter her stance and prove their inaccuracy but most have done so), it is not a one persons experience vs another's type situation.

[Sapphic]

Explain to me how one single person can mess up a raid reliably at 1-5%. What the hell were the other 7 doing?

As OP was talking about turn 7.

Very easily, tunnel visioning the boss to try and burn that last couple of % of HP and petrifying the tank/s, or missing shriek and petrifying the party. Seen it happen XD

[Sapphic]

No it isn't being petty at all, why should I take a gamble on someone? There's no reason at all to take someone that hasn't managed to clear it in a farm party.

My requirements for T6? i110 and HA weapon (Nexus only acceptable if you have HA too). Some might think that's ridiculous. I, however, enjoy my efficient farm party that is reliably killing the thing and getting loot. This party is no place at all for a newbie. Someone is going to point out "but HA and Nexus are both i115 wtf", and that person has missed the point entirely.

We cleared t9 about 15 times before 2.4 dropped and still havnt seen the bow and axe drop once yet. I can bet we aint the only one.

[Sapphic]

Right, because not like there's another Thunderstruck or anything that happens shortly after favor...

Have you done T9? If you haven't wiped once to someone using LB at 5% and getting thunder then killing everyone because they are in animation lock, you clearly are inexperienced with the fight.

Why would you LB outside of favor? I have plenty of time to melee LB while Nael is casting favor with no danger of being stuck in anim lock for the follwing fire out then thunderstruck. And if they are, everyone else moves away from them.

[Ellatrix]

We cleared t9 about 15 times before 2.4 dropped and still havnt seen the bow and axe drop once yet. I can bet we aint the only one.

Perfectly normal. It takes on average ~21 kills to see 9 unique weapons. We got our last one on #18. This number is now higher since NIN was introduced.

Why would you LB outside of favor? I have plenty of time to melee LB while Nael is casting favor with no danger of being stuck in anim lock for the follwing fire out then thunderstruck. And if they are, everyone else moves away from them.

Many groups have had wipes <5%, caused by a number of factors but especially thunder. This is part of learning, which you know, is part of increasing your experience.

I do not know whether it is your ego that is making you blind to the evidence many people have supplied in here or just that your in denial but whatever...many people here have given you truly vast amounts of evidence to counter your previous comments multiple times. You just refuse to acknowledge or accept that probably because of one or perhaps both of those reasons I just gave. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall at this stage and it serves no further purpose as long as you remain in that state of denial so from this point on I plan to ignore you.

Funny, you seem like a brick wall yourself since you keep saying clear experience doesn't count for anything. Which makes no sense whatsoever. I farmed up every drop from Coil1, have over half from Coil2, and every primal drop outside of a few weapons from Ramuh/Shiva (which are unimportant outside glamor). I have a pretty broad range of experience when it comes to farming things.