Myth Message being used to excluded players

[Ellatrix]

What if you made it to 1-5% of the fight several times, what makes someone who got the extra 1% any better than the person that didn't? Who says the person that got the clear didn't finish the run on the floor and was the least productive member of the party? The myth message doesn't differentiate between a decent and a poor player because even bad players get clears. In fact I've had more trouble with "Farm" parties being unable to clear content then actual "clear" parties.

I don't care because when I build a farm party, everyone has cleared it 10x+. If you haven't even cleared it once, you don't have the necessary experience on how to recover from mistakes, because those do happen often. Everyone makes mistakes here and there, but the mark of a good farm group is that you can pick up and recover and still clear it almost every attempt.

You do not have that level of ability if you have "reached 1~5%" since you were unable to recover from an error.

With that said, I welcome the free 100 soldiery bonus when I am not trying to farm. A pretty nice way to get quick soldiery is to run TitanX in DF with a premade 4 or 5 then just carry it for 116 soldiery.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

What if you made it to 1-5% of the fight several times, what makes someone who got the extra 1% any better than the person that didn't? Who says the person that got the clear didn't finish the run on the floor and was the least productive member of the party? The myth message doesn't differentiate between a decent and a poor player because even bad players get clears. In fact I've had more trouble with "Farm" parties being unable to clear content then actual "clear" parties.

This is when it's appropriate to send a /tell to the party leader saying, "Hey, I don't have a clear, but I've been down to 2% so I'm familiar with all the phases." This gives the party leader the choice to take you or not. If he says yes, go out there and show the farm group what you're capable of. If he says no, even though they're being petty, accept gracefully and move on. Maybe even start your own PF.

Even better, if the leader says no, you can tell him, "Yeah, well, I don't need your farm party. I'll go start my own farm party with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the farm party."

[Ellatrix]

This is when it's appropriate to send a /tell to the party leader saying, "Hey, I don't have a clear, but I've been down to 2% so I'm familiar with all the phases." This gives the party leader the choice to take you or not. If he says yes, go out there and show the farm group what you're capable of. If he says no, even though they're being petty, accept gracefully and move on. Maybe even start your own PF.

No it isn't being petty at all, why should I take a gamble on someone? There's no reason at all to take someone that hasn't managed to clear it in a farm party.

My requirements for T6? i110 and HA weapon (Nexus only acceptable if you have HA too). Some might think that's ridiculous. I, however, enjoy my efficient farm party that is reliably killing the thing and getting loot. This party is no place at all for a newbie. Someone is going to point out "but HA and Nexus are both i115 wtf", and that person has missed the point entirely.

[LionKing]

Ellaxtrix, it's all right if you don't have a pety or whether you want to take a gamble or not. It is your party, how to do things is up to you. Amelia just say it in general, there is no need to start a fight now , is there not ?

[SanjuroXI]

Explain to me how one single person can mess up a raid reliably at 1-5%. What the hell were the other 7 doing?

My point exactly your not making it to 1-5% and wiping unless you are bad.

[LunarEmerald]

Learning: New to the fight. Has little to no experience.
Progression: Experienced with the fight. Has gotten past the first phase
Kill: Experienced with the entire fight and is on the verge of a kill.
Farm: Has cleared and knows the fight like the back of their hand.

Don't join kill groups if you haven't experienced all the fight phases. Don't join farm parties if you haven't killed it. Don't join progression if you're never done the fight before.

[LunarEmerald]

Explain to me how one single person can mess up a raid reliably at 1-5%. What the hell were the other 7 doing?

Someone hasn't done Turn 9.

[LionKing]

Hm... I don't recall to have Divebomb or Thunder or Supernova when Nael is at 1%-5% threshold?? Unless the party of 7 can not take him down till the next Fire-Ice phase ??? @-@...when he starts Bahamut's Favor at 5%

[Nicobo]

Anyone know will it display the "myth message" if a first timer join in progress? ^^;

[Mykll]

So, where is this setting to display exactly WHO is the new person when you get the new person Soldiery bonus message? Or, are you a group of 7 people that have already cleared, and only bringing 1 other so you know? I get the message, it never says who. So how do you know who to kick? I've seen the opposite happen as well. CM run, no new message, everyone immediately leaves.