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    Mar 2011
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    Gridania
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    Kiara Silvermoon
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Hi All,

    There are cases to be made for both sides but ultimately:

    * The "100 Bonus Tomestones" Message is just not an accurate enough measure of a Person's Skill / Worth.

    For those of you that just want to use that as the defacto way to exclude other people, fine. It's your party, your rules.

    But as Angel and others have mentioned, there are also numerous cases of players who ARE more than "worthy" to join; they just don't have the clear due to various circumstances. I remember when I was just learning Turn 6 and 7 in random Party Finders, how I performed my job with No Mistakes, and yet I didn't get a win at the time. I made zero mistakes, but the party still lost.

    Back when I was finishing up my Nexus, there were NUMEROUS Titan Extreme fights I joined (when Titan was on Bonus Light), and the random Duty Finder players were in High Allagan (and some had High Allagan Weapons! (Turn 9 Clear)), and THEY were the ones flying off the ledge during Landslide. LOL. Sigh.

    So just having a "clear" doesn't mean that player is more worthy over another who doesn't. "Yes," it can be easier to just look for the Bonus Message and kick people, but that kind of blanket judgement is unfair and inadequate in measuring a person's worth / skill.

    I helped a bunch of random players clear Ifrit Extreme in 1.0 (when it was the hardest fight in the game), and they hadn't beaten it before. Some of the smoothest Ifrit Ex 1.0 clears were with "Going for a Clear" players, with no previous win. Same for Turn 7 Clears for others. They made no mistakes and our runs went flawlessly (no missed Cursed Voices, etc.).
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    Last edited by Kiara; 11-13-2014 at 03:27 AM.

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