Myth Message being used to excluded players

[NovaUltimatum]

I guess it depends which definition you think works for Farm/Clear/Learning groups?

I happen to agree with the set that was recently put on Reddit:

Farm party: "I have cleared the fight many times and rarely mess it up. We expect to win within a couple of pulls at most".

Clear party: "I have come close to winning or have won a few times, but often still make mistakes. We are willing to spend hours trying for a clear."

Learning party: "I have little to no experience in this fight. We expect to wipe for hours while learning the fight, and don't expect to clear it."

In the end, it's down to the party leader to determine what requirements he wants though, and to make those clear to the PF he's recruiting from.

I wouldn't dare join a farm party until I myself feel comfortable enough with all of the mechanics, which I can prove to myself by having downed it several times (usually with the group that gets the first clear). I would feel greatly embarrassed by trying to come across as though I am farm worthy without having downed it.