Big Fish and You - Patch 2.4 (speculation (or is it? :))

[Shantara]

I think HQ might be more rare than you think. Everyone in this thread and on ff14angler got NQs as far as I'm aware.

Also keep in mind that Japanese community very often keeps the discussion to itself. I just went ahead and googled a translated version of Shoni's name limiting search time to the last week. Other than the link I posted earlier, the first unconfirmed mention of "Mooch of HQ Mahar" was dated to the last Wednesday (November 6) and some lucky guy already got their "of Dragons Deep" title a couple of days ago.

[ServerCollaps]

i caught many of the new big fish in HQ, I dont think they are that rare
1/3 - 1/5 chance probably

shoni should be atleast way less rng than kuno...

just catch a 1/10 HQ cloud cutter, have a 1/3 chance for mahar, 1/2 that you'll lose the bite, 1/5 that it will be HQ, 1/2 to land the shoni
makes a 1 in 600 chance per cast to get a shoni


kuno is just ... get a HQ silver fish which is probably 1/10, mooch a HQ goldfish which is a 1/10 chance, 1/3 chance for canavan, 1/2 that you get it,
thats a 1 in 600 chance just for the canavan....than you have 23 minutes for a 0.4 - 0.5% chance per cast for kuno

[Garlyle]

Since Nepto Dragon is a legendary fish, it is has not been included in the 106 varieties of big fish that need to be caught for the achievement “Go Big or Go Home X” in order to obtain the Ironworks fishing rod.

Oh! So Legendary and Big fish are separate categories--okay. Thank god.

I have hope again as a fisher thank you based grekumah

[Shantara]

i caught many of the new big fish in HQ, I dont think they are that rare
1/3 - 1/5 chance probably

shoni should be atleast way less rng than kuno...

just catch a 1/10 HQ cloud cutter, have a 1/3 chance for mahar, 1/2 that you'll lose the bite, 1/5 that it will be HQ, 1/2 to land the shoni
makes a 1 in 600 chance per cast to get a shoni


kuno is just ... get a HQ silver fish which is probably 1/10, mooch a HQ goldfish which is a 1/10 chance, 1/3 chance for canavan, 1/2 that you get it,
thats a 1 in 600 chance just for the canavan....than you have 23 minutes for a 0.4 - 0.5% chance per cast for kuno

These numbers don't mean much if we haven't got a single Clear > Blizzard in the last 12 Earth hours.

[Illyriafox]

Credit to Eremonxi for getting it almost exactly right

Rarest condition->Zonespecific Condition->shared mooch with other big fish in area
then i would expect it to be:
Clear weather(4.7%) -> Blizzard (19.4%) -> Saucerfish Mooch

[Huckster]

Does the new rod give any extra bonuses? Like the fish dont get away?

[ServerCollaps]

you still lose everything as usual, even with 421 gathering

[Huckster]

Suddenly:


(1/1 with Colacanthus and 1/1 Endoceras - but no luck with Void Bass and other "simple" ones

EDIT:
lucky night :

[Huckster]

you still lose everything as usual, even with 421 gathering

I wonder if 421 gathering gives lower rate of "fish gets away..." for 2.3 patch big fish - it would be cool to catch and desynth more of them.

[Illyriafox]

I wonder if 421 gathering gives lower rate of "fish gets away..." for 2.3 patch big fish - it would be cool to catch and desynth more of them.

I'm inclined to think probably not. I've lost a couple (approx. 3 now) of 2.2 fish since getting Ironworks rod and I'd expect those to be almost guaranteed if there was a lower loss rate.