nerfed mages and screwed enmity o_o

[Misha]

Thank you.



I am actually ashamed to say I haven't made use of Cover at all prior to, or following the patch. The description made it sound desirable for sure, but to what extent does it reduce the targeted party member's damage reception and increase your own?

I'm actually really curious how Cover works now, right smack in the middle of a very long maintenance lol.

You select cover from bar and subtarget your healer (Yay for sub-targeting highlighting fix this patch hehe)... has 1 min cd and lasts 1 min... walk in line of sight of healer so you're in between healer and mob(s) and even if they have higher agro they'll attack you instead of healer (migates 100% dmg basically away from healer and onto you) :P ... Been tons of abilities I've forgotten about due to the poor/limiting stamina feature so don't feel too bad, plus there's a plethora to choose from and limited AP! Best thing is you get cover PRE 25 so can use on your first Run of Toto even^^ Cover's been my fav tanking ability since launch, even on non tanking classes I use it lots in duo's and such :P (only downside is when you cross-class it, it only has like 80% upkeep, but still UBER powerful)

[Athaya]

Ok where do i start.

well I have been playing this game since closed Beta and apart from the obvious faults I have been a happy gamer up until last week.

The main reason for my upset are the mage class changes. I spent alot of time ranking up conj and thaum and enjoyed playing both very much, thats untill 1.18 went live.

Thaumaturge has no AoE? thats just stupid, I got to rank 50 to find out a few weeks later that it is a job I will never use again

Conjurer: sure it feel a bit more like a white mage now, but MP cost for cure spells are all wrong I tell you!! either we need more MP or the spells need to cost half what they do now. i like the addition of rebirth and raise II but what was wrong with AoE cure 1 2 and 3? they worked perfectly fine.

Now Curaga spells, it would seem that if I even think about casting it I draw hate from the tank and get eaten by a mob, enmity needs to be looked at also,

I have spent alot of my time on this game and it a shame to see it a big step backward, I thought 1.18 would slove alot of issues and I know it has, but it has also created a few big problems that need to be fixed.

I hope someone from SE reads this

I'm sure they have read this and officially are calling you a NOOB. And if not I'll do it along with most of the people agreeing with this post....NOOBS! Guess what everyone the game is not broken you are, the new instanced dungeon boss fights confirm this. My suggestion is to find a linkshell or individuals who really understand the game. We can all upgrade our NOOB status, i did! Spend some time thinking what you character roles are in given situations. Learn what your job really can do, more importantly cannot or should not do. Btw they still have mindless Leve content for casual players!

[Kurai]

Mages work fine. Quit your whining and learn how to play your class..

so getting killed by Ureaus for casting cure 3 once after the tank had used most of his MP healing himself is normal yea?

yet another asshat troll who has no mage experience feels his need to comment on a subject he obviously knows nothing about. go lvl conj to r50 fight some NM's then come back and comment yea, until then stfu!!!!

I'm sure they have read this and officially are calling you a NOOB. And if not I'll do it along with most of the people agreeing with this post....NOOBS! Guess what everyone the game is not broken you are, the new instanced dungeon boss fights confirm this. My suggestion is to find a linkshell or individuals who really understand the game. We can all upgrade our NOOB status, i did! Spend some time thinking what you character roles are in given situations. Learn what your job really can do, more importantly cannot or should not do. Btw they still have mindless Leve content for casual players!

again i say:

so getting killed by Ureaus for casting cure 3 once after the tank had used most of his MP healing himself is normal yea?


I have no problems with MP control just surprised at the amount of MP cures now cost, and a bit annoyed that sacrifice is no longer AoE as i enjoyed thaum class more than conj as a healer. SO THAT MAKES ME A NOOB YEA, you know nothing about me how dare you comment like that, I would never talk to you like that, but there is something i do know about you. your just a troll. prob only 15 years old as well. you wanna grow up, just because you have a few rank 50's dose not make you a god mateh!! i sure as hell dont think i am.

[Keith_Dragoon]

Has anyone tried using Provoke, Taunt, and etc after the mage steals enmity, maybe you're not supposed to use all your enmity generating moves at the beginning of a fight now.

My friend did, first time it loved me to death, second time he got it off with 2 cures.

Oh and @ noctis, my tank engaged with disorient and sometimes a tp move ontop of that.

[Athaya]

@Kurai wow chill out some! I meant calling you a NOOB in nicest way! Thm. was not meant to be healing class that's what these fixes are all about. Mummy's been dead for some time now but I still drank some milk to toast your NOOBNESS!

[zaviermhigo]

THM is not meant to be healing class is a farce. There was never meant to be a healing class in this game, if you wanted to heal in the original concept of xiv you were going to equip sac and cure and enhancing magic, and it didn't matter if you did it on thm or conj, if you wanted to dd you could equip all the dd abilities onto one mage class. with transcendence and the conj version (dont remember) there was really no potency loss in cross classing abilities. That did lead to the classes being boring and thus lead to the community calling for class differentiation. But saying thm was never meant to be a healer is ignorant.

[Spellbinder]

THM is not meant to be healing class is a farce. There was never meant to be a healing class in this game, if you wanted to heal in the original concept of xiv you were going to equip sac and cure and enhancing magic, and it didn't matter if you did it on thm or conj, if you wanted to dd you could equip all the dd abilities onto one mage class. with transcendence and the conj version (dont remember) there was really no potency loss in cross classing abilities. That did lead to the classes being boring and thus lead to the community calling for class differentiation. But saying thm was never meant to be a healer is ignorant.

Ding Ding Ding~!

[AshTS]

so getting killed by Ureaus for casting cure 3 once after the tank had used most of his MP healing himself is normal yea?

Don't cast Cure III. Like ever. Sacrifice III if you must, but try to stick with Cure II. Also, Soughspeak and Chameleon is your friend.

Cure is 1 for 1 HP healed to threat gen. The exact same as damage. And you are going to be lavishing a crapton more HP back to the tank (Esp at Urasaeasreaseases) so going to need help. You would think that Provokes and the like would help compensate that, but they only go so far, I guess.

[Falcus]

Even then, right when the mobs would appear, they go straight to me and my weapon isn't even drawn out.

let me guess, you're the person who started the leve?
if so, the game has always been like that, the mobs will target the person who started the leve by default.

also, Lard, you're mistaken, Uraeus does not have a hate reset move, you're thinking of Sonorous Blast that the Great Buffalo/Tarbh Uisge uses.
the only thing that Uraeus has that can affect hate generation via the tank is petrification since it stops you outright for about 30 seconds.

Don't cast Cure III. Like ever. Sacrifice III if you must, but try to stick with Cure II. Also, Soughspeak and Chameleon is your friend.

completely agree with this, Cure II for the most part will pull you over, Sacrifice II or III will help out a lot to keep HP more stable as well.

[Poppa]

Sorry for the delay, I meant to comment on this earlier. So OK

First I would like to say that I realize that the latest patch is just the foundation of what is to come. I have fought this NM along with the other NMs more times then I can remember. I have to say I agree with where the mages are going (Cnj healer, Thm a possible off healer, I dont think that a Thm should be a healer...at all, just my opinion).

Now that being said I was the main tank healer in the OP fight against Uraeus, and this was ridiculous. I had Soughspeak II and Chameleon along with Out of Sight. I waited til the tank had half of his life before casting a single thing. I buffed up w/ soughspeak II and Chameleon (I was still in the green) then casted a cure 2. There I seen my lil new hate meter go from green to blinking red. From this point I was Uraeus poo. Our tank did all he could to keep hate, but it failed because the hate is to much for some reason.

I agree that prior to the patch NMs were just too easy, however now if a mage were to cast a cure 2 and have the buffs to lower the hate we now get full hate, how can a mage do his/her job?

I do like the way that SE is going with the game, we have to think about things first instead of rush in and just kill. Hate is simply broke now. I do remember before Yoshi started we had a small hate problem but nothing like this. I do hope that with the up coming patches (ie 1.18a, ect) that they will fix this somewhat. I am not saying that mages should have it easy, we have to think before casting. But one spell shouldn't mean getting full hate.

I would really hope to see Beyohne or Rukkirii comment here, this really needs to be addressed to the Dev team.