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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhex View Post
    If you look at it from a potency standpoint MNK NIN and DRG are all very similar with their potential base-potency the problem is buffs.

    Monk gains significant bonuses through Greased Lightning stacks and a straight 5% DMG bonus while using Fists of Fire.
    Ninja has many of it's higher potency abilities behind mudra combinations but it also is granted a static 20% DMG bonus with Kiss applied.


    Dragoon has no static bonus or building bonus on it's damage output - that's all that holds it back in my opinion. I would rather see a static bonus or a stacking bonus that Dragoon can apply than upping it's Jump potency or changing it's play-style too drastically.
    Monks don't have any attacks that have higher than 200 potency. Ninja and Monks both have a 1-2-3 combos that hits over 300 on their last hit. DRGs also have an attack buff from heavy thrust.
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    Faye Saotome
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Monks don't have any attacks that have higher than 200 potency. Ninja and Monks both have a 1-2-3 combos that hits over 300 on their last hit. DRGs also have an attack buff from heavy thrust.
    While you're right about everything else, I think he means no attack speed buff like Greased Lightning or static buff like Kiss of the Wasp/Viper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    While you're right about everything else, I think he means no attack speed buff like Greased Lightning or static buff like Kiss of the Wasp/Viper.
    Well my line of reasoning was/used to be that DRGs had higher potency for their attacks because of the lack of attack speed boost. Though that doesn't really explain why ninja has one (huton) on top of having high potency and a rather high attack buff (whooping 20%).

    And I can see the inherent problem behind Heavy thrust too since it's buffed is locked behind a positional bonus, esp when some of the later bosses just love to turn around to hurl fireballs or spintop around the map.
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    While you're right about everything else, I think he means no attack speed buff like Greased Lightning or static buff like Kiss of the Wasp/Viper.
    Exactly; Ninja can use Kiss +20% static Damage increase and has a Ninjutsu to boost it's Attack speed by 15%. Monk builds up Greased Lightning stacks for various bonuses and can use Fists of Fire +5% static Damage increase. Dragoon gets a 15% Damage increase tied to an off combo and no additional static/long term buffs which cannot be compensated for over time with Jumps (which are inherently dangerous to use).
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