DRG has been broken for far too long. Fix it SE

[pompey_dan]

*sighs*
ps: DRG is not worthless and irrelevant... it's the player that make it look like this

I guess all us top end DRGs need lessons from you, please tell me how to DRG, O wait you haven't even set foot into second coil let alone final coil, anything you say about class balance in difficult content is irrelevant because you haven't done any difficult content lol.


Back to topic I really hope we hear something from SE soon, I really don't wanna have to change main to monk or ninja just to beat t13

[pompey_dan]

DRG is having a hard(er) time now that bosses like to randomly turn around but this isn't a new thing. It happened in SCoB as well, Turns 2, and 4, in particular. I think it would be silly to say DRG won't get some kind of helping hand but I don't really believe they'll simply remove positionals. Rather they'll make the ones they have now stronger. Which will probably have the same effect as BLM being bottom of the barrel to BLM being king of all saiyans.

I hope they don't touch positionals, just HT increase to 20% and jump CD reduced to 30s. Keeping positional requirement will keep the required skill ceiling high to warrant the potential extra dps

[Lord_Zlatan]

just watch the 3.0 vids... DRG will probably get buffed to the point of being OP.

[KitanaiKoneko]

So, When just MNK was better than DRG for dps it was fine, but now that MNK and NIN are better, DRG has become the WAR of 2.0 and its the end of the world?

[Mardel]

So, When just MNK was better than DRG for dps it was fine, but now that MNK and NIN are better, DRG has become the WAR of 2.0 and its the end of the world?

Well, a lot of people already complained about it in the past. The big difference now is progression groups that wanted to split the gear of the two melee will do their best to avoid bringing dragoon since ninja has a different left side set. With goad and all the utility/burst ninja brings it would be silly to bring a class that requires more healing, has less dps, and is severely hampered by positional skills.

[Lord_Zlatan]

So, When just MNK was better than DRG for dps it was fine, but now that MNK and NIN are better, DRG has become the WAR of 2.0 and its the end of the world?

the point is, its really not... People crying for buffs to DRG because its too hard or because they get penalized too much for missing (what is the only difficult part of playing DRG) positionals don't realize that without that DRG would basically be unfettered sustain dps plus huge spike damage. This is the only thing that holds DRG back from being unbalanced in favor of it.

MDEF sucks. this is true. This needs to be fixed. SOME potency upgrades on DoT attacks could be beneficial as well. Increasing a flat % damage would be too much IMO.

[Warlyx]

Well, a lot of people already complained about it in the past. The big difference now is progression groups that wanted to split the gear of the two melee will do their best to avoid bringing dragoon since ninja has a different left side set. With goad and all the utility/burst ninja brings it would be silly to bring a class that requires more healing, has less dps, and is severely hampered by positional skills.

ehm? mnk and drg have different left side set too , only share right side...and if u change drg > NIN ....u have the same issue but with bard now.

Drg Mdef needs a buff we all agree on that , but saying that DRG are worthless and no1 will take a Drg to Coil is far from true.

[Souljacker]

ehm? mnk and drg have different left side set too , only share right side...and if u change drg > NIN ....u have the same issue but with bard now.

Drg Mdef needs a buff we all agree on that , but saying that DRG are worthless and no1 will take a Drg to Coil is far from true.

I think what he meant was when the choice is between a DRG and a NIN - all other things being equal (ilvl, skill) - the party leader will prefer the NIN because of DRG's other weaknesses instead of just flipping a coin because they are both equally strong and useful. That's not good game design. Last night I was talking with a guy in my linkshell who also mained BLM and he's jumped on NIN. Says he loves it and won't come back to BLM. NIN is his new main.

I'm glad that they made the job fun, but it doesn't need to trample all other jobs. Monk doesn't either, for that matter. It's time for DRG to be tweaked.

[Seoki]

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I can't tell if you're agreeing with my first two points but your last point really exemplifies my first suggestion on the first page of the thread.

They should simply buff the potency of their skills to really reward perfect execution of their rotation.

It would make great dragoons even better and give them a competitive edge for FCOB.

Save any class reworks (ala WAR) for 3.0 which I'm pretty sure they'll get since they are now the poster child for the game.

[Mardel]

ehm? mnk and drg have different left side set too , only share right side...and if u change drg > NIN ....u have the same issue but with bard now.

Drg Mdef needs a buff we all agree on that , but saying that DRG are worthless and no1 will take a Drg to Coil is far from true.

To clarify what I'm saying is if people want to avoid double stacking jobs for progression, though monk + monk is OP. You would bring a ninja over drg because of all of drg's weakness compared to ninja's strength. You see both jobs share RIGHT side accessories with another and that is unavoidable, but by bringing a ninja you can feed your monk (which is better than drg currently) and push content faster.