Missed ONE >>1<< Duty Finder commence, and now I have 30 minutes penalty.

[SgtPepperUK]

Fellsin sounds like he's saying it's AWFUL that a single person could be in a group of 3 and that person gets to be in a group that withdraws 6 times with nobody getting a penalty.

They're also sort of ignoring that if that group of three just queued as individuals, they'd all get to withdraw from the queue 6 total times (2 for each of them) and nobody gets a penalty. So the affect upon the queue is not any different whatsoever. But those sort of facts are apparently not all that important.

I get what Fellisin is saying, it's about co-ordinated partial parties who queue and go instance fishing. First 2 times it pops party member A withdraws, 3rd time it pops party member B withdraws so A won't get a penalty and so on. So if 3 people make a party and enter DF they get 6 attempts as a group to fish for the progress status they want. A group of 8 looking to enter ST on the last phase would get 16 attempts if the penalty didn't apply to the entire party.

Whilst there is scope for abuse, to me the system is working, since 2.4 my FC and I have queued for CT and ST and gotten in faster without having it constantly repop due to people withdrawing. We've been getting in on the first or second attempt each time, more often the first. As I'm often the one that forms the party and puts us in I also make sure everyone is absolutely ready and the people I party with are aware that we'd all be penalised if they did time out for any reason when the DF popped.

[Roris]

So if 3 people make a party and enter DF they get 6 attempts as a group to fish for the progress status they want.

Preformed parties can't queue in progress.