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Thread: Undercut Hell

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    Slowly but surely, we'll all lose our minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcdistro View Post
    i try to always match lowest, then they undercut and the war begins... to be honest it should be like ffxi was and have blind bidding and if they bid high enough they got the prize
    Price war is pretty much a normal thing. It serves several purposes - eliminate stupid people who can't stop once being provoked into price war, keep arrogant people from "easy to do" price manipulation, especially in illiquid markets, drives prices down to supply-demand-component supply equilibrium of decent but still reasonable margins.

    Market structure in FF14 is much better than it was in FF11, it punishes hard for arrogance and simple manipulation techniques. FF11 was only better because 80% of the game depends on market and it was basically "pay2win" game - whether you have a lot of gil to buy ridiculous amounts of best for everything sets of equip, or you have not and be a gimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcdistro View Post
    ..........undercutting by 1 gil or 500k is no different to me anything i truely make i farm all the stuff myself so really 10 gil is profit to me
    Please come to my server so I can buy your stuff and resell.......I'm serious......
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcdistro View Post
    you undercut someone else so you can sell yours faster so they did it back you can play that game all day long how about you try and match the lowest price instead of undercutting in the first place... its sitting in my inventory and you deliberately undercut me i will slash them prices because i don't care i am clearing out space.. i try to always match lowest, then they undercut and the war begins... to be honest it should be like ffxi was and have blind bidding and if they bid high enough they got the prize

    undercutting by 1 gil or 500k is no different to me anything i truely make i farm all the stuff myself so really 10 gil is profit to me
    I do that also, I'll see item is 8k and so I'll put it to 8k and take off later on i'll check and notice they price cut me for 500-1000 so I adjust my price from 8k to 1,500 cause I don't care but they probably will.
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    I don't craft anymore. Too much to keep up with. I do however gather and sell the mats mainly clusters, crystals and shards. I don't overprice because I don't spend gil to get them but I do invest some time. I WILL UNDERCUT the feet from under anyone dumb enough to try and think they can "buy me out and sell" for double or triple what I put them up for originally. Want to see some happy crafters? Screw with me. Clusters will go for a gil a piece. I got nothing but time.
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    When I lower prices on the market, I take into consideration how much the item is selling for. If its a million gil item, 1 gil increments is not going to go well. 10,000 gil increments would be about right. But for something that costs 50,000 gil, dropping the price around 1,000 sounds reasonable.

    Always check the sell history though to see if the current prices are too over priced.
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    I under cut ppl I hate it when some one sell an low lv item that take less than 10 min to make and charge like 25k for one piece of lv 20 gear I charge what is fair so I charged 6k or less depending what it is like aldgoat skins and leather or like ice shards I thought I saw at over 64k a stack so ya id under cut like hell id charge 1k per stack and and id sell 64 stack and still make close to that of one and id sell out and to be honest to all you ppl who cry about under cutting it is called fierce competition it happens in real life it like trying to sell a beene baby since when they came out they were a lot on the resale and years later they are next to nothing another example pc bk in 99 vs 2015
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    There are two main types of items: high volume low margin, low volume high margin. Most crafters prefer the high margin items. The problem is, some people have all day to lower prices by 1 gil back and forth. Those people will make your life miserable if you don't have the same amount of time to watch the mb all day. This could be avoided by adding a 1% tax your retainer charges to the asking amount when you list/change prices. If you are selling a 3 million item, and it costs you 30k to lower the price by 1 gil you will be less inclined to spend all day undercutting each other by 1 gil.
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    I guess everyone is a merchant in Ul'dah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    I guess everyone is a merchant in Ul'dah?
    Not even, those Ul'dahn merchants are babies compared to the ruthlessness of the MB.
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