Coil 5 changes needed

[Alukah]

Remember that "DF groups" can often be "5-7 man premade groups that went through DF to fill the slots".

Yesterday we wanted to do T5 for a friend who returned from a break, after waiting for a while in PF we decided to go through DF to fetch a healer and a dps, while they did make the clear harder we ended up asking them to suicide before divebombs and got them (and my friend) their clear.

[SarcasmMisser]

Only allow 16 people to do T5 if the boss music is changed to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ

[Nutz]

Only allow 16 people to do T5 if the boss music is changed to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ

Pretty much this. The proper way to nerf Twintania to the point that it's easy is remove the knock back effect of divebombs and the aeo effect of twisters. I think pros would have problems with twisters if you doubled the number of players. Just increases the likelihood of stepping on a twister and killing everyone, not to mention more people that can miss divebombs.

[MrSigy]

Only allow 16 people to do T5 if the boss music is changed to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ

You sir, made my fucking day

I managed to pass T5, but T9 is nothing compared with this.
scob and fcob is not made for human beings

T5 is peanuts compared to T9.

SCOB & FCOB require coordination & players knowing their class, understanding& testing.
All the people who have killed those have been there for not 1 hour but multiple days counted together. They spent the time to learn the fight & have spend the time to learn their classes.

You sir, should just keep playing casual and leave the raiders alone. If you wanna be carried that is your right but don't cry about it.


ontopic: T5 is all about learning as is this entire game, please try harder.

[RadRyder]

You can do what I did. Since I didn't want to waste people's time in PF until I was comfortable with the fight, I used the DF to get as much practice as possible. In my case, since I don't have a dedicated static or FC, it took me 3 weeks of daily practice in DF, and finally got a clear during the fourth attempt or so in a PF.

This also teaches you communication, which is key in all Turns starting with 5 and up. As a tank, I used macros and markers in DF religiously to alert people of conflags, divebombs, twisters, dreadknights, etc. You'll be surprised at how much this can improve your PUG.

Just gotta persevere. If I (and many other people) cleared T5 through DF/PF alone, then so can you.

[Ellatrix]

You can 4man T5. It doesn't need any change, the fight is trivial compared to mechanics in new fights especially since it's tuned for i80 with 25% echo and how few things you have to deal with at once.

This isn't storymode, don't expect a win if you don't work to earn it.

[polyhedral]

I'd like to see that 4 man T5. That means, you could carry 4 people, and make a ton of gil selling runs, right?

Why isn't this happening then?

[Ellatrix]

I'd like to see that 4 man T5. That means, you could carry 4 people, and make a ton of gil selling runs, right?

Why isn't this happening then?

Is it really that hard to type "4man t5" into google? Go try it. Also that was months ago, should be even easier to do it now.

[polyhedral]

Is it really that hard to type "4man t5" into google? Go try it. Also that was months ago, should be even easier to do it now.

You seen a video, and therefore, it's label as "so easy". That's silly. Can you do it? Alrighty then.

I've seen plenty of T5 videos, streams, you name it. I've spent over 35 hours in that damn turn. I know the fight, the problem is, 7 other people who know and cleared the fight, don't want to do it anymore.

Why do they not want to do it? You know damn well why.

[Kuwagami]

Why do they not want to do it? You know damn well why.

because they're not true friends ?

My FC regularly helps people get their T5 kill or at least we try to (sometimes it just ends up being a 2 hours training session with no kill). Who cares ? OMG we lost 2 hours doing old content. Well, no. We helped someone for 2 hours. Not the same