Coil 5 changes needed

[AiChyan]

You can bring as many people as you want, won't do you much help when everyone if not most of the group die to twister, died to dive bomb or fail with conflag. So yea..dps can only get you soo far, you still need to do your homework and learn the mechanics of the fight. There's a reason why it's there.If there's no mechanic, everything thing will be dull a heck.

This. People just don't realize this needs practice and lots of attempts and hours spent on it. Just have to choose the right group to do it. why recruit complete newbies if you already know divebombs? or why stop at divebombs if you know twisters? Recruit the right people and you will clear it. And nerfing isn't really a solution, because if people can't clear T5 as is, I can't see how they can clear scob or fcob.

[Beyondgrave]

This. People just don't realize this needs practice and lots of attempts and hours spent on it. Just have to choose the right group to do it. why recruit complete newbies if you already know divebombs? or why stop at divebombs if you know twisters? Recruit the right people and you will clear it. And nerfing isn't really a solution, because if people can't clear T5 as is, I can't see how they can clear scob or fcob.

Or MEX,LEX,REX ect. All of which imo is harder than t5 lol

[Alukah]

I think the main cause of wipe in t5 is people not using focus target for twisters.

...and tunnel vision at conflag/fireball

...and having game sounds off/playing music when divebombs will be casted, with a really-hard-to-miss alert sound

But mainly focus target.

[Delorean]

So, beating coil 5 in duty finder is nearly impossible.

Then stop trying to beat it in the DF.

A lot of us spent weeks on Turn 5, if not a month or more... Why should something that took that much time and effort be easy enough for a bunch of DF players to just pop all of their CDs and tunnel boss until it's dead? Why should you get, in 10 minutes, what it took us to weeks to get?

Echo is more than enough

[RufusShinra78]

This entire thread is BS. If you can beat Titan extreme, you can beat T5. You want t5 nerfed even more, are you serious??? I went into t5 and only a few times entering the instance, I completed it. With i110 gear, it was a cakewalk. T5 is less than 1 million Gil to buy the completion. I think you should just save to buy the completion, instead of trying to nerf it for everyone else. You also wanna know what's hilarious?? Everyone complaining about T5 has probably never actually tried to get better at it. You(the player) most like queues a few time, dies at con flags, than rushes to the forums and hits the complain button.

sometimes as much as I love the internet, I sometimes hate how people can be so easy to wine and complain about something without actually trying to get better at it, than go to the forums and complain only because they are anonymous.

[wicked-one]

Was bored, done T6 with PUGs yesterday, 5 kills, 2 Wipes...no Voice, and still no Troubles...

You are doing it with the wrong people, frustrating yea, but T5 is no showstopper anymore...

- you can´t fix a social problem by technical means -

>>I'd like to see that 4 man T5
With the actual Gear, while still an achievment, but surely a doable achievment.....

[kyuven]

t5 contains some very basic mechanics that you need to be able to handle in order to have any hope of beating t6-9 (and 10-13, but that's a given).
It's a wake-up call boss. Sure it's comparatively more difficult and a lot of the mechanics don't have a lot of logic to them, but that's true for a lot of coil mechanics.

[Sessurea]

Tbh if people aren't learning what to do then they don't deserve to clear it. There isn't even that much to learn. Every time I dfed this people messed up conflags. Litterally everytime. It would be useless to nerf T5 into the dirt completely since then they'll have t6 in df soon, which , if treated like t5 with ppl queueing hoping for ez carry, will be 10 times more impossible.

Really just get a pf together. Even make it a 3 strikes ur out pf so people treat it seriously. Been failing shiva all week until I made a 3 strikes pf, it works.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

This is why Coil should not have been put in the DF in the first place.

If something is in the DF, the average player believes for some reason that joining without any awareness whatsoever should be enough to get a kill.

[Sessurea]

Brings it all back home to --->FinalStaticXIV. Getting stuff done w/o one takes great patience. I'm too unsocial for one so believe me I know xD