[Pole] Do you want to see the summoner class reworked?

[Akiza]

I don't recall a summoner ever transforming into a summon. I also don't recall Yuna's or Lightning's summons raining down death and destruction when summoned. I don't necessarily disagree with the view summoners should be more like Demonology warlocks, provided you realize that that spec now revolves more on Metamorphisis and less on the pets. The pets are still secondary to the player, and still mostly on autopilot.

The Summoner wouldn't transform into Primal it would summon the Primal by getting absorbed by the Egi. I realize the Summoner would revolve around Summoning Magic instead of Pets if they adapted the Demonology Warlock.

[Kaze3434]

The Summoner wouldn't transform into Primal it would summon the Primal by getting absorbed by the Egi. I realize the Summoner would revolve around Summoning Magic instead of Pets if they adapted the Demonology Warlock.

you literally said the summoner would "be able to Transform into the Primals as well as compel Primnal Powers to aid in battle".

[Dwill]

you literally said the summoner would "be able to Transform into the Primals as well as compel Primnal Powers to aid in battle".

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[Spellbinder]

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This thread was starting to get back on track two pages ago...so close.

[Mimilu]

The Summoner wouldn't transform into Primal it would summon the Primal by getting absorbed by the Egi. I realize the Summoner would revolve around Summoning Magic instead of Pets if they adapted the Demonology Warlock.

Again, Summoners can't summon the actual Primal because Primals are cray-cray. They can only summon Egis, which are a small fragment of the Primals power, so small that they won't go crazy and start absorbing/corrupting aether and tempering mortals.

[Deliciou5]

I think what akiza meant was if your character wanted to summon primals instead of lesser pets like egi, that your summoner would temporarily disappear to offset the fact that you had a more powerful pet and you would have to control the pet directly.

The only problem with this idea is that if primals were to powerful that they would be used all the time instead of normal summoner. However this can be offset if they had a long cooldown timer so you would play normal summoner for long periods before using a special ability that allows you to transform for a period of time like 1 or 2 mins?

Otherwise you would play summoner like normal if you decided to use the lesser pet.

Again, Summoners can't summon the actual Primal because Primals are cray-cray. They can only summon Egis, which are a small fragment of the Primals power, so small that they won't go crazy and start absorbing/corrupting aether and tempering mortals.

I discussed this with dragonfire earlier in this thread that lore reasons are silly to consider half the time.While it seems like SE would never do it for this reason....SE could easily just make up some quest dialogue that explains some miraculous plan to allow that to happen.

"We finnally figured out after all these years on how to turn the tide on the primals!You can attach your soul to the primal limiting it's influence only to you. Therefore the summoner himself can absorb the corruption and embody the primals full form and use it battle! Only you, warrior of light, can resist it's wily charms!"

Something along those lines just better written :P. Not really keen on the idea of becoming primals or whatever just saying if SE wanted to add it in then no past statement saying otherwise or lore reason would probably stop them.

[Ojikuh]

What if summoners pet's can be sacrifice with a 60 second cool down and gets 1 free instant summon on the next pet for 5 seconds.

Ifrit will explode dealing massive aoe damage and dots
Titan will jump on one target and reduce their damage dealt by 10%
Garuda will cast slow/haste in the raid for 5 seconds =p

[Deliciou5]

What if summoners pet's can be sacrifice with a 60 second cool down and gets 1 free instant summon on the next pet for 5 seconds.

Ifrit will explode dealing massive aoe damage and dots
Titan will jump on one target and reduce their damage dealt by 10%
Garuda will cast slow/haste in the raid for 5 seconds =p

This is a step above quick-summon idea that was mentioned earlier. It kind of reminds me of necromancers corpse explosion from diablo games but instead of just doing damage it adds various powerful abilities to use your pet for, a skilled summoner would use this ability just before it died and it wouldn't require any 6 second recast cool down.

I like it.

Edit:To further advance this idea, there should be a small burst of damage that is worth multiple auto attacks so players would not complain that their overall DPS is being lowered by missing out on them because it still would take a second to resummon...then autto attack again even if the casting time was instant.Ifrit already has dmg however so i don't think it would apply to him.

[Rarkon]

yes
Please make the summoner feel like a summoner from every other Final Fantasy game. Our pets should be doing most of our damage, and they should look like primals and not egis.

[Delily]

yesPlease make the summoner feel like a summoner from every other Final Fantasy game. Our pets should be doing most of our damage, and they should look like primals and not egis.

No, the designers want the player to be doing most of the damage, not simply be a proxy to a pet.